Thanks.....I be at the customers site tomorrow and really won't have a full handle on what, exactly they have, until I unbox everything. Looks like the system was shipped with V5R4M0 but I won't be sure until I get there. FTP connection speed at the site is SLLOOOWWW. Less that 256kbps when the wind isn't blowing.... :-) But I'll order the latest CUME and PTF's for V5R4M0 and V5R3M5 anyway. I'll be onsite for most of the week so I'll start the downloads as soon as I get up there tomorrow.
I have a basic handle on this now and I'll do some more reading while in 
transit and and then take it step by step when I get up there.  Should 
be an adventure.
The 270 AND the 520 both only have a CD and tape drive, that is it.  I 
would guess that they would both be flagged as an alternate IPL device.  
I'll check on that though, just to be sure.  I appreciated the steps you 
outlined.
I'll post back when this adventure is over.  Hopefully with a positive 
experience.
Pete


rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

You can order the cume, hiper and db groups in advance. I would. Check the ptf site weekly until your new hardware comes in and order the latest. Me, I download them using ftp versus waiting on CD's via snail mail.
Do you know the difference between "alternate IPL device" and "alternate 
install device"?  For example, with my 3582 I cannot IPL from it - even 
using a SAVSYS tape.  Because the 3582 is an "alternate install device", 
not an "alternate ipl device".  I could IPL from a CD and then continue 
the install from the tape.
STRSST
1. Start a service tool
7. Hardware service manager
2.  Logical hardware resources (buses, IOPs, controllers,...)
1. System bus resources

Look for the * below
Description                    Type-Model
Bus Expansion Adapter 28E7- System Bus 28B7- Multi-adapter Bridge 28B7- Combined Function IOP * 2844-001 9=Resources associated with IOP
Description                    Type-Model
Combined Function IOP * 2844-001 Storage IOA 2780-001 Disk Unit * 4327-070 Disk Unit 4327-074 Disk Unit 4327-074 Disk Unit 4327-072 Disk Unit 4327-072 Optical Storage Unit % 6330-002 Tape Unit % 6384-001
%="Alternate IPL device"
*=Load source disk

My TAP01 cartridge is an alternate IPL device but on this monster I sure wouldn't do the full option 21 to that.
Rob Berendt

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