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Jeff, We are running 2 520s here with the 1827/serial cable setup and we have tested the items you mention after point #3. We have successfully received the messages that occur when the UPS in in bypass mode and when the UPS goes on/off battery (utility power lost/utility power restored). We have tested for those messages and received them and also have received them in a 'live' situation when we had utility power problems. In addition to that... If I unplug the cable while the system is up and running, it will tell me so... we've tested it (in fact, I just walked in to our development box and yanked the cable/reattached it and got CPI0961 and CPI0962. If you're not getting messages for those types of events, it sounds like something is still wrong with your setup... it sounds like maybe the signal output to your UPS might still be suspect. With that said, I agree that IBM implementation needs some work (it was a MESS when the 520 hit the streets)... I think it's stemming from the fairly new existence of the FSP and firmware PTFs and all those concerns. I had something odd occur last week when we loaded some firmware PTFs and then when they finally applied at IPL I noticed a message about the UPS no longer being attached. It required another power down, unplug for 5-10 mins, and IPL to sense the cable was reattached again. The support person didn't know why this occured from loading MH* PTFs, but it did. They are hurting their system reliability and wasting some of those minutes of availability throughout the year that add up quick when people start talking about five 9's and such. ;) "Jeff Crosby" <jlcrosby@dilgard foods.com> To Sent by: "'Midrange Systems Technical midrange-l-bounce Discussion'" s@xxxxxxxxxxxx <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 03/28/2006 08:48 Subject AM FU: UPS on an i5 520 - Not Your Father's Attachment Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> All, Back in February, I posted a number of messages regarding UPS attachment to a i5 520. I think my particular situation is now resolved, but I felt I needed to post a summary of "what is." After being involved with a number of people at IBM on this, I find that we have 2 completely UPS attachment scenarios: 1) Historically, UPS was attached via a J14 port. The i5 520/550/570 models do not have a J14 port. Instead you must connect to a serial port. This serial port acts entirely different from the J14 port in a number of ways. At least one of these, to me, is a defect. The defect is that the FSP _only_ recognizes UPS attachment to this serial port if an 1827 cable is attached at the time the FSP is powered up. After power up, it makes _not one iota of difference_ if there is a cable attached or not. I can unplug it after power up and the ASMI says it's still attached. If none was attached at power up, I can attach one later and the ASMI will still say none is attached. 2) The MATMATR API pays no attention to this serial port in any case. The MATMATR API only works if you have a J14 port. Since I got an 0595 expansion unit with my 520, I found this out accidently because, lo and behold, even though IBM can't spring for a J14 on a 520 system, they put a fully functional one on the expansion unit. If I short the various pins in the J14 port per an IBM internal document instructions, the MATMATR works. But the ASMI shows nothing. 3) This means IBM has 2 completely different and unassociated methods for determining UPS attachment. There is the serial port that the ASMI looks at. Then there is the J14 port (your father's UPS attachment method) that the MATMATR API uses. But I think IBM still has a problem with that serial port. Be advised that if you're using an 1827 cable (of which there were many threads here), you do _not_ have the same level of communication from your UPS to the i5 that you used to have with the J14. The serial port connection signals are 1) UPS attached, and 2) battery low. That's it. No 'on bypass' indication. No 'on battery' indication. You read that right. I have both HW and SW PMRs still open at IBM on this, and I don't believe until just very recently, that there are many (if any) people in IBM that know and understand the entire situation regarding UPS attachment and what a problem it has become. Though I'm not an electrician by any stretch, I don't consider myself a dummy. (Comment welcome here. <g>). I just don't understand how IBM got the whole UPS attachment thing situated this way. HTH someone else. (To compound the above for my case, I found out from Liebert, my UPS manufacturer, that their UPS connection signal output has changed. It only took 6 months and talking to 4 different people at Liebert to find this out and is at odds with what those people told me 2 years ago when I got the new UPS. Believe it or not, even though I'm using the EXACT same cable as with the old Liebert UPS, connected to the same COM1 output port, Liebert has completely changed the signals generated. To get to what I used to have, for connecting to that J14 port, I must put another card into my UPS and have a cable custom made by Black Box. Both of those items are now installed. This now puts me back to where I was 2 years ago before this all started.) -- Jeff Crosby Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc. P.O. Box 13369 Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369 260-422-7531 The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the opinion of my company. Unless I say so. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _____________________________________________________________________________ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com _____________________________________________________________________________ ForwardSourceID:NT00040D42
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