Re: Did ITJungle say Common was a waste of time?

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How can I get Mike's whitepaper?   
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Franz <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:12:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Did ITJungle say Common was a waste of time?


There was a lot more going on at Common than just the Town Hall meeting.
I would agree the open mike period had a few good points made within
an extreme amount of repetitive blathering. Many in the hall were disgusted
with our side of the meeting.
I did get a lot of value from this Common, and found IBMer's more
than willing to discuss a variety of issues, technical as well as marketing 
and
future directions. I've been to a dozen or so conferences & this was just as 
good
or better than previous. The facilities in Minneapolis were great.

btw - for a later thread - everyone needs to understand what sql tuning 
features
were added to v5r4 and read Mike Cain's (IBM) whitepaper.

Jim Franz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Adams" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Did ITJungle say Common was a waste of time?


> COMMON is a user advocacy group.  Whether or not it is successful in
> that endeavor depends upon whether or not one's own issues are being
> addressed.
>
>
> Among other things COMMON has re-instated the Requirements process.
> Actually, re-invented would be a better description since on the old
> model one had to attend the conference to enter a requirement.  I think
> that has been removed.  In fact, if I heard (and remembered) correctly,
> even non-COMMON members can enter them.
>
>
> I attended the Town Hall meeting last week.  I got ticked off and left
> after the 10th person during "open mike" griped out "changing the
> name."  Once was more than enough, plus it was addressed *before* the
> "open mike".  My point here being that this was a great venue to say
> something useful to Mark Shearer that was mostly wasted.
>
>
> * Jerry C. Adams
> *IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
> B&W Wholesale Distributors, Inc.* *
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> 615.995.7024
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>
>
> Steve Richter wrote:
>
>>Is, should COMMON be a user advocacy group?
>>
>>from http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh032706-story01.html
>>
>>"...As I prepare to fly out to Minneapolis to attend yet another
>>COMMON iSeries user group meeting, I find myself pondering how iSeries
>>shops could bring their collective weight to bear on IBM to compel it
>>to behave in ways that the user community desires. Because the iSeries
>>does not have direct competition, IBM doesn't price and package the
>>iSeries in a way that many of us believe it ought to so it can compete
>>against Windows, Linux, and Unix platforms. While IBM has a large
>>customer advisory council, COMMON, and regional user groups all
>>feeding in requirements and offering advice to Big Blue on how to
>>improve the iSeries, that is not the same thing as having the power to
>>actually compel IBM to change its behavior. ..."
>>
>>"... Like many people in the OS/400 community, if I have an argument
>>at all, it is almost never with IBM's Rochester labs, where the OS/400
>>platform is created and manufactured, but rather with IBM's Somers
>>offices, where the marketing and sales plans are hatched and where the
>>pricing and packaging decisions are made. Getting Rochester to listen
>>is easy, since the techies aim to please. Getting Somers to listen is
>>hard, since the marketeers aim to make as much money in the shortest
>>term with the least possible amount effort. They do this because
>>that's what marketeers at public companies do.  ..."
>>
>>
>>
>
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