RE: Sarbanes-Oxley / my opinion -- MIDRANGE-L

Wayne,

>Forgive the rant, but if we continue on our present course, >we'll ALL
have RF chips imbedded in us, not just the >animals.


Odd that you would write this the same day my local paper printed this
story...


Implanted chip opens new doors


BARBARA CLEMENTS; The News Tribune
Published: April 5th, 2006 01:00 AM

Benjamin Thompson, owner of Ben's Car Audio in Auburn, can start his car
and unlock its doors with a swipe of his hand. He implanted a radio
frequency technology chip between his fingers.

Radio frequency technology, known as RFID, can be implanted to be used
as a security device.

Benjamin Thompson walked over to his Chrysler Crossfire and calmly
placed his palm on the outline of a hand on the rear driver's side
window.

The car started up and the door unlocked.

With that simple gesture, Thompson is relatively sure he's shifted radio
frequency technology into high gear for the automobile security sector.

See the full story -
http://www.thenewstribune.com/business/story/5639580p-5062400c.html 


jte


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne McAlpine
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:29 AM
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Sarbanes-Oxley / my opinion
> 
> Forgive the rant, but if we continue on our present
> course, we'll ALL
> have RF chips imbedded in us, not just the animals.
> 
> endofthetrail@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>Is this supposed to identify animals that have crossed
> the Mexican
> >>border?
> >
> >
> > No, this is every farm animal in the US, including
> horses, cattle,
> > pigs, chickens, ducks, turkeys, llamas, catfish, and
> etc... have got
> > to have a radio frequency ID (RFID) tag and/or microchip
> and the
> > owner has to report within 24 hours any birth, death, or
> movement of
> > the animals from the property which also has a premsis
> (a GPS postion
> > and 911 address) Id number.
> >
> > The same questions can be asked of it, that are being
> asked about SOX.
> >
> > It does not prevent anything from happening... It is re-
> action not
> > pro-action. Adds more cost and paper work...  Add gives
> more control
> > to the governing agency...
> >
> > I know it is off topic but I just wanted to voice my
> observations.
> >
> > If anyone wishes to check it out... check the USDA web
> site
> > www.usda.gov/nais  and www.nonais.org or
> www.stopanimalid.org
> >
> > Eurrat
> >
> >
> > ---- Original Message ----
> > From: M1C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Sarbanes-Oxley / my opinion
> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:09:02 -0500
> >
> >
> >>Is this supposed to identify animals that have crossed
> the Mexican
> >>border?
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >>endofthetrail@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:30 PM
> >>To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: RE: Sarbanes-Oxley / my opinion
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I suppose my three immediate questions would be:
> >>>1. What is SOX intended to prevent?
> >>>2. How effective is it at actually enforcing what it's
> intended to
> >>>prevent?
> >>>3. What are the new methods of circumventing it?
> >>
> >>This is SOOO funny, not Ha Ha funny, but because it is
> so similar to
> >>the NAIS (National Animal Id System) stuff that the
> "government" is
> >>trying to push onto the farmers in the name of security.
> >>
> >>They want to put radio freq tags on every animal in the
> nation.  It
> >>does not prevent anything, it is a reaction tool, and
> adds cost.  The
> >>same questions apply.
> >>
> >>Eurrat
> >>
> >>---- Original Message ----
> >>From: M1C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: RE: Sarbanes-Oxley / my opinion
> >>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:08:16 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >>>I suppose my three immediate questions would be:
> >>>1. What is SOX intended to prevent?
> >>>2. How effective is it at actually enforcing what it's
> intended to
> >>>prevent?
> >>>3. What are the new methods of circumventing it?
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Milt Habeck
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:30 AM
> >>>To: Midrange technical discussion group
> >>>Subject: Sarbanes-Oxley / my opinion
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dear Mark,
> >>>
> >>>Your  'SOX and BRMS'  post last week has encouraged me
> >>>to share my personal point of view about SOX.
> >>>
> >>>In my opinion, Sarbanes-Oxley compliance doesn't
> require an
> >>>enterprise to do anything that good business practice
> did not
> >>>already require a couple of decades ago. SOX just
> requires that
> >>>external auditors do a more thorough job looking for
> >>>distinctions between world class business practice and
> how a
> >>>company actually operates ... and ... it requires that
> the auditors
> >>>report those distinctions for review by investors.
> >>>
> >>>It's not clear how well the "report-it-to-the-
> investors" part of
> >>>the legislation is working. If anyone knows of an
> annual report
> >>>that has included a SOX-type complaint in an audit
> letter,
> >>>please tell me more about it. If annual reports of that
> genre
> >>>can't be found, then we're left with two hypotheses:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Thousands of publicly traded companies are doing a
> great
> >>>     job running their business with sound internal
> control
> >>>     regimens in all functional areas (including IS).
> >>>
> >>> 2. The fear of annoying a client and not being invited
> to
> >>>     perform next year's audit has proved to be more
> compelling
> >>>     than the fear of failing to observe the letter of
> >>>Sarbanes-Oxley.
> >>>
> >>>     [Quite candidly, it's hard to believe hypothesis
> #1 given the
> >>>      testimonies I've personally heard from managers
> across a
> >>>      broad cross section of manufacturing industries.]
> >>>
> >>>Long before SOX was invented, pharmaceutical companies
> >>>had much more demanding business practice requirements
> imposed
> >>>by the FDA. If your enterprise could get system-
> certified under
> >>>FDA's 21 CFR part 11 rules, SOX would be a cake-walk.
> >>>
> >>>There are several other IT compliance requirements that
> pre-date
> >>>SOX and here's a link to information about the better
> known ones:
> >>>http://www.unbeatenpathintl.com/ITstandards/source/1.ht
> ml
> >>>
> >>>You mention BRMS (Business Rule Management System)
> >>>software and that genre of tool can help an enterprise
> develop
> >>>and maintain operational policies. But, it's not going
> to help much
> >>>if the purchaser doesn't already grasp what world-class
> business
> >>>practices are supposed to look like.
> >>>
> >>>  Without that intellectual property, the final
> deliverable won't
> >>>  help improve the quality of operations any more than
> many of
> >>>  the ISO 900x policy books I've seen. (I'm referring
> to the
> >>>  "just-write-down-what-we-are-already-doing-so-we-can-
> pass-
> >>>  the-ISO-audit-ASAP" type efforts.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Warm regards,
> >>>
> >>>Milt Habeck
> >>>Founder/President
> >>>Unbeaten Path International
> >>>
> >>>www.upisox.com
> >>>(888) 874-8008
> >>>
> >>>"Unbeaten Path is in the business of
> >>> helping enterprises move towards
> >>>       world class performance"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>+++++++   +++++++   +++++++   +++++++   +++++++
> +++++++
> >>>From: "Mark Allen" <scprideandms@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:45:59
> >>>Subject: SOX and BRMS saves of Application data and
> Objects
> >>>
> >>>Looking for some ideas from somebody who's been thru
> this or at
> >>
> >>least
> >>
> >>>part
> >>>of it.  I know a little about BRMS and not even sure
> "what" the SOX
> >>>Compliance people MIGHT be looking for.  I know this is
> vague but
> >>
> >>its
> >>
> >>>all I
> >>>got for now. just looking for some general ideas.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks, also feel free to respond off list.
> >>>
> >>>
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