Re: SMTP troubles (AGAIN!)

["Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

To expand on a few things here.

1.  The QGATE@xxxxx address you're seeing is the iseries.
 Aparenetly JAvaMail may use the IBM SMTP server to send
mail (the send mail API)

2.  The iseries really has no problem delivering mail to
recipients without a mail router as long as your firewall
allows traffic over the SMTP port.  

3.  MAILTOOL alone uses the IBM SMTP server to send mail.
 Wiht the addition of the MAILTOOL Plus addon, the IBM SMTP
server it TOTALLY bypassed, sending either directly to
recipients or your mail router.  IT also can produce
trace/debug files that are a BAJILLION times easier to
follow than the IBM SMTP "flight recorder."  This makes it
super easy to see what the issue is.

4.  You can get a free trial of MAILTOOL at
www.bvstools.com/mailtool.html.  :)

5.  Finally, you shouldn't be having Reverse DNS issues
unless you're sending to a recipient who needs it.  But
with the use of a mail router, this should be already set
up.  Sending form the iSeries without a mail router to a
server that requires RDNS can be troublesome to say the
least (unless you have really good network support guys).

6.  99% of the time when using a mail router, and it
doesn't work, the problem is with the mail router (from my
experience..)  <smile>

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:53:34 -0700
 "Exterior Wood" <tnonamaker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You will probably need to get some sort of native 400
> mail progam such as
> "MailTool" from Brad Stone .... works great.
> 
> You will probably also need to get a Reverse Dns address
> for your 400
> ... Aol, Comcast, others will not accept your mail for
> that reason.
> ... Some will not accept your mail because it is relayed,
> which is what's
> happening now. The bigger players make life difficult.
> 
> I certainly can't answer all your ?'s, but we have our
> mail hosted outside.
> .... you are paying for it to be protected and out of
> harms ways.
> .... such as spam and viruses
> .... and you have no maintenance to speak of
> 
> These are the things we did when we started having our
> mail hosted outside
> ... it works fine and relieves us of a lot of burden
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> James H H Lampert
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:57 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: SMTP troubles (AGAIN!)
> 
> "Tom Jedrzejewicz" <tomjedrz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > This is not a good practice; the mail server should be 
> > protected by the firewall, particularly as it is a
> Windows
> > server.  I am kind of curious to
> > find out why it was done, if indded it is the case.
> 
> Confirmed: the mail server is outside. This was done so 
> that the web-mail interface would work, as port 80 is 
> being routed elsewhere by the firewall.
> 
> Sending email from the Java application on the 400 to an 
> address on the mail server works fine; sending it from
> the 
> email server itself (through the web-mail interface) to
> my 
> personal email address works fine.
> 
> Sending it from the Java application on the 400 to my 
> personal email address produces the bounce message I 
> reported previously. The curious thing about the bounce 
> message is that it purports to be from 
> QGATE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx On the CHGTCPDMN 
> screen for that 400, the host name is given as "sirius," 
> and the domain as "private.touchtonecorp.com," but I
> can't 
> imagine how a bounce message could be coming from the 
> origin point of the original message.
> 
> Can anybody point me in the direction of docs and/or 
> previous List traffic on how to get the OS/400-native
> SMTP 
> sending email directly, without relaying through our mail
> 
> server? Obviously, it's getting through the firewall, 
> since it's getting to the mail server, so avoiding the 
> relay should be fairly straightforward.
> 
> --
> JHHL
> 
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Bradley V. Stone
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