Re: The Perpetual Myth of iSeries Obsolescence

[Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I can not believe the amount of resistance I have gotten from trying to 
implement scroll bars on green screen subfiles.  The scroll bar works 
pretty good, and sure save a lot of lines of code devoted to "position 
to" screens.  I know that not all subfiles can be load-all, but gosh, a 
huge percentage of the subfiles in use today have way less than 2500 
records (the practical limit for a scrollbar subfile), and the coding 
for a load_all subfile is all most cookie cutter code.

(For those that have never seen a green screen scroll bar, I offer these 
links:

http://tinyurl.com/kczww

or

http://tinyurl.com/kjsno





Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Don't equate modernization to a GUI interface!  Just because it has a GUI 
> interface DOES NOT make it modern.
>
> I realize that this is the perception that most non-IT folks have, but 
> that is just wrong.  A green screen ap can be just as modern as a GUI ap.
>
> Thank you,
> Ronald L. Zimmerman
> I.T. Applications Manager
> Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
> "The Good for You Company"
> Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 04/28/2006 02:35:01 PM:
>
> > On 4/28/06, Ingvaldson, Scott <SIngvaldson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > No one complains about Linux or Unix admins who do their heavy lifting
> > > using character based interfaces.
> > It is not about the tools / interfaces we use to manage the systems. 
> > It is about the applications used by the user community.  The problem
> > is that the applications are still green screen, in many cases because
> > the RPG developers refuse to move toward graphical interfaces.
> >
> > This makes perfect sense to me.  Why would management trust the
> > judgment about modernization to people who refuse to modernize the
> > very core of their working environment?
> >
> > > The i5/Series is really the ultimate consolidation platform; almost
> > > nothing is incompatible with it, almost anything will run on it in 
> some
> > > shape or form.  What other box can say that?
> > Certainly, but those capabilities are totally unused in the VAST
> > majority of shops, so all the executives see is the green screen.  We
> > need to demonstrate what the system can do with "edge" projects, so
> > that the real capabilities are known.
> >
> > For instance, my company uses an old version of BPCS, which is green
> > screen.  But we have a few well placed web (CGI) programs, so that the
> > execs know that the system can support it.  It has been made clear to
> > the decision makers that while the application we choose to use is old
> > and limited, the underlying technology isn't.
> >
> > Consequently, when I proposed an iSeries upgrade last fall I did not
> > get opposition related to the "oldness" of the system.  And as we
> > consider new things, I can propose putting them on the iSeries without
> > eyes rolling.
> >
> > --
> > Tom Jedrzejewicz
> > tomjedrz@xxxxxxxxx