Re: The Perpetual Myth of iSeries Obsolescence -- MIDRANGE-L

cuss words? I re-read my comments and nowhere did I use a cuss word.  If you 
are referring to my usage of the term g-d that is certainly not a cuss word 
and the spelling is used purposely from a Jewish perspective, however that 
is another discussion for another forum of which this one is not 
appropriate.  If you want to know why I used it in the context I did, email 
me privately and I will be more than happy to explain.

A calendar control requires now many clicks with the mouse? two? Three? and 
if you have to change the month or year you can add at least one to two 
additional clicks.  I can perform the same function with data entry and do 
it more efficiently than with a control.  As for errors, you can still have 
the same issues with someone clicking the wrong day and since our system 
pulls its dates and times from the system time we do not have an issue with 
them.

We are going to have to agree to disagree here Trevor on the issue of GUI 
versus GS, because it is readily apparent you are not going to change and 
frankly I do not see a need to recode our entire system just to provide 
slicker looking screens.  I might add that we have looked at GUI in the past 
and just cannot justify it.


On Wed, 3 May 2006 09:23:25 -0500, Trevor Perry wrote
> Sounding negative is easy when you use cuss words.
> 
> The concept of a mouse is not the issue. The concept of a GUI 
> application is to add more value to the application than green 
> screen can ever do. How about a calendar control? Selecting a date 
> is not a longer process than typing a date, but it is -without 
> question - MUCH MORE ACCURATE. Using a graphical user interface 
> PROPERLY to ADD value to a green screen application will save a lot 
> of time, and improve accuracy caused by human input, and in the end, 
> will save money when those data entry resources are applied to other 
> tasks inside the company.
> 
> It is all a matter of perspective. If you yourself are anti-anything 
> (eg. "g-d mouse"), then your company shall remain without the added 
> advantage that a GUI can bring. This means that your job as IT - as 
> a SERVICE to your company - is not effective. Eventually, when the 
> company realizes this, you shall be obsolete.
> 
> The dark ages are over - get modern.
> 
> Long live the System i.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Douglas W. Palme"
> Subject: Re: The Perpetual Myth of iSeries Obsolescence
> 
> > Without wanting to sound as if I am completely negative, I could not
> > disagree with you more.  I am of course only looking at this from the
> > perspective of our industry, and more time is wasted playing with the g-d
> > forsaken mouse and clicking on buttons than anything else I have ever 
> > seen.
> >
> > Whether the GUI is well designed or not is entirely beside the point, 
> > users
> > like to play and with a green screen, which 90% of our business is 
> > entering
> > and providing information to other employees and customers, we have far
> > little of those issues and a hell of a lot more productivity.
> >
> > I am asked all the time why we do not have a "windows" application, and 
my
> > standard response is "Why?"  The overwhelming end user response is 
> > "Because
> > it looks nicer".
> >
> > I am not in this for looks and trust me when I say it has nothing to do 
> > with
> > functionality, it has to do with the fact there are no graphics and 
> > colorful
> > screens and browsers, etc.  I am only concerned (from an application
> > standpoint) with functionality and productivity and from my somewhat 
> > limited
> > and focused viewpoint, 5250 gives us everything we need to accomplish our
> > goals and needs.
> >
> > That said, our unique position may not work for others.
> >
> > Douglas
> 
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