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Just today an associate was using an IBM doc that said that a save after an IPL crawls. And the documentation said to do the following to do a "first touch" (summarized): - Dup the object as you have done. - CHGPF to make the number of records *NOMAX - DSPFD ... the members to this outfile. So I guess what you are seeing is expected behavior. Rob Berendt
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