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I'm with Rob--I've got bad twinax memories. For a console in the same room
as the system, sure, not a big deal. Not elegant, but it's simple.
There's nothing like trying to figure out what devices are downstream when
you want to move or re-move one terminal or printer in the middle of the
chain. I REALLY want to forget Perle controllers for remote devices. Long
live the LAN!
Dave Parnin
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Nishikawa Standard Company
Topeka, IN 46571
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Darrell A Martin
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I think a distinction needs to be made here. There are elders, and there
are doddering elders. Both deserve respect. There are geezers, and then
there are old geezers. At 57 I think I am a geezer, but not an old one. I
walked 5 miles in the Morton Arboretum yesterday, after work, and did it
in street shoes in 1:20. And that was after part of my day was spent going
up and down stairs and a stepladder, at relatively high speed, helping fix
a hardware failure that knocked out every last network switch in the
building.
We have a few doddering 3196 dumb terminals scattered about the production
area, both of our consoles are twinax based, and a key machine in the I.T.
department is also twinax. Everybody else runs iSeries Access or
Wintronix. Guess which connections to the AS/400 stayed up? [grin]
In case anyone is interested, the switches were knocked out when I tried
to trace the single standard gauge grounded extension cord that was
plugged into one of our larger UPSs which had started beeping. The cord
was unusually warm, obviously a concern. Halfway down the wire rack I gave
a gentle tug to get the cord out where I could see it a bit better, and
all six HP ProCurves went dark. The pull was just enough to finish the job
of the input plug failing on the *single* cheap power strip that was
handling our entire network infrastructure. (Installed by a "former
administration".)
When everything is set up right, both hardware and software, then IP-based
stuff is fine. When you are like us, an alternative is very useful ...
sometimes, it is just true that Twinax Is Our Friend.
Darrell
Darrell A. Martin - 630-754-2187
Manager, Computer Operations
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midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/13/2006 04:49:01 PM:
ROFL Joe - I agree that it was interesting. But Aaron really needed help directed at his situation, without the noise. I love twinax for consoles too - but then i am a luddite at heart! It just seemed that the talk of bricks and bats and all were taking up his time
unnecessarily.
And Rob does need to show more respect to his doddering elders! LOL Vern -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>From: vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx And all this talk of twinax is just pointless when you do not have a
twinax card.I don't know about that. Discussion of twinax isn't germane to Aaron's
situation, but the comment that stirred a lot of the pot --
specifically,
Rob's opinion that twinax is both archaic and unreliable -- deserved
the
opportunity for rebuttal. It's pretty clear from the comments that us
old
geezers and our silly KISS principle still have some kick left in us. Joe -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing
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