Re: Slashdiot article about P6

["Peter Dow (ML)" <maillist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I concur 100%.  I recently started doing some part time work for the 
local Montessori school, and am having to learn Linux in order to 
maintain their proxy server, and add email, web and a wiki.  The 
existing proxy server is running Fedora, and Apache.  I looked around 
for some wiki software, chose Wacko after trying something else, and it 
starts out with a relatively simple install procedure, after which 
configuration is supposed to be done via a browser, but that's where it 
all started to fall apart.  Getting the right version of Python to run 
with the version of Apache that works with the Fedora core isn't much 
fun, especially for someone just learning it all.  And all the forums 
are oriented towards people whose idea of fixing it is to download the 
source for everything and recompile.  And if you don't have the 
compiler, download that too.

And I haven't even tried email yet.

*Peter Dow* /
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 793-9050
pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> /

Ingvaldson, Scott wrote:
> I'm not meaning to speak for David, but he appears to be referring to the Linux UPGRADE process, not Linux operational issues. 
>
> We have been running Linux in production for years and have had very few 
> operational issues.  We can easily clone a new Linux server from an existing 
> one.  But when it comes time to upgrade we have had to start from scratch, 
> building a new server and migrating the applications and data, and then do 
> extensive testing before going to production.  Our iSeries upgrades normally 
> only require upgrading the O/S in test, (usually no application or data work at 
> all) normal operation for two or three months, then upgrading the production 
> O/S.  Linux upgrades require days, and a team of administrators and 
> programmers; iSeries upgrades usually require half a day and my time only.  I 
> have never had to rebuild a production iSeries after an upgrade.
>
> In the event of a complete hardware replacement i5's only require a relatively 
> simple unload/reload, no application or database reinstallation, etc.  
> Compatibility issues are almost unheard of.
>
> Certainly Linux is exceptionally reliable; but it is nowhere near the i5OS in 
> ease of use and built-in, out of the box capabilities.
>
> my 2¢
>
> Regards,
>  
> Scott Ingvaldson
> System i Administrator
> GuideOne Mutual Insurance Company
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:28:28 +0100
> from: "Knezevic, Mihael" <Mihael.Knezevic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: AW: Slashdiot article about P6
>
>  
>   
> > Uh, right ... I've had problems with just about EVERY linux upgrade
> >     
> I've
>   
> > ever done ... none of them were completely seamless.  When I upgraded
> >     
> to
>   
> > Fedora Core 4 my database was hosed for a while.
> >     
>
> i don't know your specs, requiremnts and the software you used/
> installed but i am running a linux based os for server and client and i
> got not a single problem at all with the os for years. one server is
> running for over a year without a single reboot. and don't mix os
> problems with application problems.
>
> my 2 cents
>
> mihael
>