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Don't know if they've already devalued to zero but an additional argument in pushing management to upgrade certain boxes now is that they are not supported in the next release. Trade them out before they devalue further. Those of you that like cheap obsolete hardware should be getting more on the market soon. I know that we'll be dumping our 270's. http://www-304.ibm.com/jct01004c/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/osmapping.html Rob Berendt
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