RE: RAID Cache Battery Source

["Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

My Dad always told me "There's no vaccine for dumbass".

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Horvat
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:11 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: RAID Cache Battery Source

It is not my call not to have maintenance the boss decided that.  Since the
520 was sold as a user upgradeable / maintainable system that's the way he
is literally taking it or so it appears.  If the system dies due to a major
failure I guess we get a shiny new box...  And all the pain involved getting
it up and running ASAP...  

Yes IBM did state that the PO was for the $8206 and that it could cost more
or less.  At $8206 the PO was not approved.  In the past T+M used to be 2-3
hours minimum at $XXX dollars an hour plus parts.  
  

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:55 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: RAID Cache Battery Source

So that you don't mislead folks. The $8206 is the Purchase Order you need to
issue to IBM. While this does give them the ability to invoice you this
amount if the work is actually that hard, they would not in actual practice
invoice you anywhere NEAR that amount to replace a cache battery. Athough I
would still expect the total to easily exceed $500 plus Parts.

Also to be clear, if you have no contract they will work on your system only
between 8 and 5 M-F and may not get there the day you issue the PO either.

My first question is: Why no maintenance? Comparing the price of the system
and the cost of maintenance and it's a no brainer! Besides that, things like
this battery replacement are trivial when under maintenance. 
Lose a planar board and you're basically buying a new system.....

- Larry


Fred Horvat wrote:
> I did call IBM and their T+M was $8206 plus the battery.  No Joke... 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:49 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: RAID Cache Battery Source
>
> You should still be able to give IBM a PO for time and materials work.
> Search the archives for "Batteries Plus". There were lots of 
> discussions about model numbers, etc.
>
> Paul Nelson
> Cell 708-670-6978
> Office 512-392-2577
> nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Horvat
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:19 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: RAID Cache Battery Source
>
> The system is not under maintenance.
>
> I have a local battery place similar to Batteries+.  I would just 
> schedule it for a Saturday to shut down, drive there, hope they can 
> make/order a battery, drive back, and replace the battery.  If I have 
> to order a battery then just do another shut down.  Doing a location 
> search I saw that there is a Batteries+ near me so if the first 
> battery place does not have it then I can always try Batteries+.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jones, John (US)
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: RAID Cache Battery Source
>
> It should be covered by hardware maintenance.  It is on our systems.
>
> Failing that you can take the old battery pack to Batteries+ ( 
> http://www.batteriesplus.com/ ) and they'll build a replacement.
> Warning, though, that the B+ by me takes 7-10 days to do the build so 
> you may have to run w/o cache, i.e. "degraded", for a bit and have 2 
> maintenance windows (1 to remove the old, 1 to install the new).
>
>
> --
> John A. Jones, CISSP
> Senior Analyst, Global Information Security Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
> tel: +1-630-455-2787 fax: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Horvat
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RAID Cache Battery Source
>
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> On our 520 we just started getting a RAID Cache Battery warning 
> stating we have 79 days before failure.  The system has a 5709 RAID 
> card and the battery part number is 42R5070.  Anybody have any sources 
> on where I can obtain the battery?  Via a couple of sources I've not 
> had any luck in finding one.  I'd like to replace the battery on a 
> weekend.  Worse case I shut the system down (after flushing cache of 
> course) and pull the old one out and cross reference it to something else.
>