Patrick,

Joe can be quite blind on these issues. For years he's argued that
"Integrity" PTFs can mean anything to a problem with how it updates a
journal receiver or something, but could never mean a potential breach of
security (other than that caused by inadequate setup - which of course is
not a ptf issue).

Those of us who actually have had professional benevolent hackers take
advantage of these leaks know otherwise.

I think we just have to consider the source there, and let him rant.

Please don't let him sour you on this list (or IBM). Your advice has
always been invaluable.

Rob Berendt

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