RE: Lansa AS2 and Spooled Files -- install -- now compared toQU2install -- MIDRANGE-L

I disagree.

During the development and testing of the product IBM OS bugs could have been found.

In addition, seems natural that a product could require functionality that IBM delivered as a PTF.

I've certainly had third party products that had pre-req PTFs for OS/400.

Charles

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Subject: RE: Lansa AS2 and Spooled Files -- install -- now
compared toQU2install

Um, I'm not sure what you mean, here. QU2 is not an IBM product, so it
should be developed with whatever version and PTF level is GA.

As for ease of installation, nothing is quite as simple as
typing LODRUN
OPT01 and pressing enter.

Paul Nelson
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Subject: Re: Lansa AS2 and Spooled Files -- install -- now compared to
QU2install

A product created in conjunction with the OS would generally not
require any PTFs to enable the product [installation]. The
QU2 product
obviously was created for V5R4 after the release was
available. It is
only natural that some fixes might be pre-requisite. In this
case the
QU2 required enhanced function that was not yet externalized
as public
interfaces. I am not sure if or what PTFs were required as
pre-req to
the _install itself_, but surely there were PTFs that were
required to
_enable some functionality_ of the product run-time.
In my case, where I forgot to apply the PTF, the install
went fine; a
few minutes of RSTLICPGM activity, nothing more, no errors
with install.
My only problem was trying to start the server when the
missing PTFs
were not yet applied; and the instructions were very clear that they
were pre-requisite, so it was rather daft of me to have spent so much
time on one installation solely for having assumed I was smarter than
the 'puter.

As I recall the difficulties Lukas is having are National Language
Support [NLS] issues, and they are generally unrelated to the
install;
i.e. they are run-time issues. As browser-based, I such
issues would be
client [setup] related, that the QU2 client processing would be aware
of, only at run-time; i.e. the install is on the server.

So it should be clear the QU2 installation is nothing that
should be
compared with the install offshoot from the original topic
thread. If
there are functional issues worth calling out, whether with
the install
or the product itself, please do so. But it is unnecessary
to seemingly
try to kill QU2 in its infancy, by giving it an undeserved bad
reputation, by implying it is horribly difficult to install.

Regards, Chuck
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Paul Nelson wrote:

I don't have the link, but Lukas Beeler has a blog going about his

travails.

For what it's worth, in the 16 years I have worked with the several
generations of SEQUEL, I have never ever had to put on

PTF's in order to

install it.

Perhaps that's because those developers have been betas and

occasionally

alphas at the lab.

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