RE: IBM not investing in i5/OS was: iSociety

["Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: Joe Pluta
>
> Have you guys actually tried EGL?  Look, there are two ways to do things:
> learn the basics and program it yourself.  IBM has provided you that with
> unrivaled support for JSP Model 2 for about a decade.

Skipped a clause here.  I meant:

"Look, there are two ways to do things: learn the basics and program it
yourself, or use a tool."

My point is that if you're saying you want RPG-like programming capablities,
they're there and have been for a while.  You can use JSP Model 2 and write
your own plumbing (which is closer to the DSM APIs than it is to a display
file), or use JavaServer Faces and take advantage of that code, which is not
far from DDS.  You still have to write the minimal Java required to convert
between EBCDIC and Java Beans, but that's it.

But if you can't learn that stuff, for whatever reason, then EGL is your
ticket out.  It allows you to define records at the data level which give
you either direct access to the data via SQL, or else you can call an RPG
program and pass them as data structures.  The records can be dropped onto
web pages using an editor that's more powerful than SDA (I wish I could just
drop a data structure on a subfile and have SDA position the fields and
paint the column heading for me!).

All without a single line of Java code.

Joe