Recently, I have a system with a duplicate user profile (no - I'm not
kidding) which owned about 35,000 objects.  The system was slow, and I
calculated that if I changed the ownership of all of the objects, it would
have tied up the system for several days, alternatively we could have
initialized the system and reloaded.  We chose to save/restore them to a
new system, as the older system was due to be replaced.   It was a model
620, and I restored them to a 520.
Al
Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
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That's interesting!  How did you limit it to pulling by platter?   Did you
calculate what was on a platter first?  I thought that Optical drives, like
normal dasd, wrote to whatever portion of storage was available at the
time.
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Loeber
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:13 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: File w/Large Number of Members
   Shannon,
   Initially, it was taking forever and we were only extracting about 20
   documents a minute.  If you do the math, I think that would end up
taking
   years to get all 7 million documents.  But, we have since re-engineered
   the extraction process to do it in "platter" sequence that that has sped
   up the extraction process considerably.  But, you're right, the juke box
   is the limiting factor in this.
   Rich
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   Shannon ODonnell wrote:
 That's a big job.
 Are you finding that it's taking a really long time for the optical drive
to
 simply read those images so that you can convert them?
 I've worked on something similar with an optical drive and the slowest
part
 of the entire process was the mechanical "performance" of the optical
drive
 itself.
 Which made sense as that was the whole point of the customer getting off
of
 the optical drive in the first place.
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 From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
 [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Loeber
 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:05 PM
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 Subject: Re: File w/Large Number of Members
    Shannon,
    The application is an image extraction of documents stored on an
optical
    juke box attached to the customer System i.  They are moving off of the
    System i and need to convert all of their documents into PDF files.
Each
    member in the file represents a scanned document from the juke box.
 There
    are more than 7 million documents to be extracted.
    Thanks for the suggestions so far.  Some of them may have
applicability,
    but I have to be careful about tinkering with the application in the
    middle of the conversion project.
    Rich Loeber
    Kisco Information Systems
    
http://www.kisco.com
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    Shannon ODonnell wrote:
  I'd be interested in hearing about what kind of application would need to
  generate that many members.
  That's a new one on me.
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  [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Loeber
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:44 PM
  To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
  Subject: File w/Large Number of Members
  Hello list,
  I'm working with an application that has a work file that builds up a
  large number of members while the application is running.  It takes
  several hours to complete.  I even bumped into IBM's restriction of no
  more than 32,767 members in a physical file with this one.
  I'm have a minor issue with deleting the work file when I'm all done.
  When the file has 30,000+ members in it, it can take more than an hour
  for a DLTF to run.  Has anyone ever run across this before?  Are there
  any tricks out there to speed up the file deletion process?
  Rich Loeber
  Kisco Information Systems
  
http://www.kisco.com
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