Boys, I just can't let this sit.
1) Okay iNav is not 'zippy skippy fast' but if you have a decent (read 
anything recent) PC it's not as slow as you all make it out to be. Now if 
you're running against an old model 170 of course the server side is going 
to be a drag on the speed but again with a recent system it's truly not 
bad. Part of your complaint is that you rarely use it. If you have it up 
all day as I normally do then it's already running and it performs even 
better.
2) Have you tried creating your interfaces in iNav so that you don't have 
to switch to it to check the Proxy Arp box? Why do something half way, or 
even 95% in one interface that cannot complete the task only to switch to 
the other for one check box? Give it up!
3) I don't care how big your screen is. You can only get a little over a 
dozen rows and 8 or so data columns you're only choosing the font pitch. 
On my laptop with a second screen above the laptop panel I can see 138 
jobs in iNav and over 20 columns of data.  AND I can sort on any column 
with a click. AND I can select jobs with F11 AND I can customize and 
sequence columns with F12.  AND I can create a link to active jobs (or any 
other function) by dragging it to my desktop or quick launch. 
I don't suppose you boys use or WDSC or RDI either? Another of those GUI 
things that takes a few seconds to load and as a consequence might not be 
work the trouble? 
I know a builder who wouldn't go to the hardware store for a new blade for 
his sawzall. Instead he spent 5 minutes literally burning through a 2x4. 
He wouldn't get his air nailer out of the truck either because it took 
three trips to get the nailer the compressor the hoses and the nails. Used 
some cheap hammer because 'it booted up faster' (my term.)   Learn the new 
tools or get left behind. Really this sort of 'living in the past' so to 
speak is part of the reason that our competition thinks that i *IS* the 
past. 
  - Larry
 
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thank a soldier.
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Hi Vern
That's true - but I bet I could do the F11 and work out the percentages
quicker than navigator would load !
I did qualify the recommendation as quick and dirty :)
I think Navigator has got a lot better, although I still can't bring 
myself
to use it regularly. Every time I revisit it I am reminded of how slow it 
is
and how badly it works.
I do however often use it for showing Windows guys stuff on the i. System
Values are a good example. WRKSYSVAL is a fine interface if you are used 
to
the green screen thing, but the System Values dialogues in navigator work
really well particularly for sysadmins who cut their teeth on windows. 
Same
goes for Ethernet routing and interfaces and as you point out, disk units.
Regards
Evan Harris
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Hi Evan
I didn't mention WRKDSKSTS, because you have to work out the real percent
used - unless everything is nicely balanced. And you have to F11 to see
which disk pools the units are in. The Navigator disk units interface is
nice, because it summarizes each disk pool. You don't get quite anything
like that on the green screen.
But then WRKDSKSTS *PRINT combines both screens.
Did I say I actually liked something in Navigator? Don't tell anyone,
please!!!
Vern
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From: "Evan Harris" <spanner@xxxxxxxxxx> 
WRKDSKSTS is a quick and dirty way of seeing how much space is available
in 
each AS and IASP. If you have BRMS you can use WRKASPBRM as well (though 
it's slower) 
Regards 
Evan Harris 
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Subject: RE: URGENT !! Situation critique pour mimoire secondaire. 
David 
WRKSYSSTS should have how much room is left on the system ASP - you 
might 
have to go to disk units in iSeries Navigator (does that have a new name 
yet!) which needs a DST user/password - and then you can see free space 
on
user ASPs and independent ASPs, I think. Have been playing there a bit 
lately. 
As to how big the contents of the save file is - DSPSAVF will give you
sizes 
of each object in there - can't get to sa system - there might be 
summary 
information - there is at least an object count. Get out your calculator
or 
copy/paste into Excel. 
HTH 
Vern 
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