I do it oldest to newest for the reason you mentioned - I don't want to
have a missing pre-req.  I'd rather spend the extra time installing the
cume first and then overlaying parts of it if there are superceding
PTF's in a group or hiper.
I second Jerry's endorsement of image catalogs - those are the best. 
Recently, I had a couple of bad CD's.  Would have hated to find out
midway into the load.  With image catalogs, I knew ahead of time and
could get them replaced.
lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx 07/18/2008 1:01:37 PM >>>
IBM Says Cume first then groups.
From V5R3M5 and forward I ALWAYS Load them all up in one giant image 
catalog and let them fly. For V5R3M0 and previous you need to know how
far 
behind you are before you do that or you risk making the link loader go 
'Tilt' and then having to reload the LIC.  (No customer data is harmed
in 
this, but downtime ensues.)  You can safely do about 1 years worth of
PTFs 
at a time but if you're further back than that you want to do the CUME
by 
itself with an IPL and then add other groups. Remember that the HIPER
and 
the DB groups are in the CUME. 
Logically it makes sense to do the HIPER first because those are the
most 
current. The HIPER will lay down a big bunch of 'Superceded's which will
mean the CUME and other groups won't have to apply those PTFs only to
have 
the HIPER come along and overlay them. However occasionally IBM expects 
that a particular CUME level is already installed before the HIPER is 
installed. Given that, there is the "WHY" for doing the CUME first and 
then the HIPER and other groups.
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I looked for the "why" in the archives and couldn't find it...
For once and for all I want to understand in my mind which you do first 
and why: cume or group?  I ordered groups and cumes, and I want to know 
which to do first, and what's the reasoning.
Joe
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