I am not disagreeing with you Rob, frankly until I came here I had never
used multiple members before....and still think they suck.....that said,
it is a huge thing around here....I personally would love to see them go
away completely.....but unfortunately we have too many old files that are
accessed by far too many programs to do that right now.
going forward though, I see no reason to keep using them.
From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 08/18/2008 08:23 AM
Subject: Re: DDL Files - Tables and keys
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Doug, you can use multi member files that were created with DDL. However,
- You have to do a CHGPF to alter it to allow multimembers.
- You lose all constraints, etc
- For the rest of eternity you have to either use ALIAS or OVRDBF
What is so darned good about multi members that can't be solved by simply
adding another column that is indicative of what you used the member name
for?
Rob Berendt
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Doug Palme <DPalme@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Ok,
Some are saying that you can use them with aliases, etc. and I assume
you
just said that won't work Jeff.....I'm confused.
From: Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 08/15/2008 03:36 PM
Subject: Re: DDL Files - Tables and keys
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Now who would do that?
Oh wait - I DID!
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vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Doug
>
> SQL does not process multiple-member files at all. So if you go the
DDL
route, you can't use them.
>
> The usual way to do the same kind of thing is to add a field that
could
be, say, the member name in the multiple member file - and use that as
part of a where clause.
>
> HTH
> Vern
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Doug Palme <DPalme@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>> Boy you are really going to get me into trouble here......this
outfit
uses
>> multiple member files like there is no tomorrow.....
>>
>> Can you explain why no multiple members? I need some explanation
because
>> I will be asked.
>>
>> From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
>> Date: 08/14/2008 04:43 PM
>> Subject: RE: DDL Files - Tables and keys
>>
>>
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>>
>> Oh,
>> - No multiple members.
>>
>> Rob Berendt
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>> Dept 01.073
>> Dock 108
>> 6928N 400E
>> Kendallville, IN 46755
>>
http://www.dekko.com
>>
>> "Wilt, Charles"
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>> Always use a primary key...
>>
>> SQL standards recommend it.
>>
>> You can't use FK constraints without it...
>>
>> You can't even use CPYF MBROPT(*UPDADD)....
>>
>>
>>
>> Charles Wilt
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
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>>> There is going to be a standards meeting tomorrow and I have been
>>> writing
>>> up some notes and suggestions for DDL files. Any additional Input
>>>
>> from
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>>>
>>> One thing I was going to suggest was that tables should be created
>>> without
>>> any keys, unless there is a specific reason to use a PRIMARY key,
>>>
>> which
>>
>>> I
>>> believe is the only key you can add to a table....correct? We
should
>>> use
>>> Indexes for keyed data and views for those files that we need
>>>
>> specific
>>
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