Re: what was the single mgmt decision made in mid-1990s that slowed the evolution of ILE/RPG?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:42 PM, David Gibbs <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

(I know I'm going to regret this)

now you are channeling Jon Paris

Steve Richter wrote:

CL cant instantiate JAVA objects, or call a PHP method or even use
the RPG varying string.

Well, with the exception of the varying string point ... I respond: WHY SHOULD IT BE ABLE TO?  CL is a job control language,
not an application development language.  It's intended to control the environment that a program operates in, not implement
application logic.

CL also is the baseline from which programs are called. Pgm A is
called, it returns an object, that object is then passed in a call to
Pgm B. So definitely, a control language has to be able to instantiate
and work with the data type of the variables of all the programs it
can call.

 Using the same arguments you've made, one could say that unix shell script and windows batch files
should be able to directly instantiate and interact with Java objects (without needing to run the java command).

exactly.

RPG cant use an SQL result set.

Sure it can ... that's what RPG SQL is all about.

nowhere to the degree it should be able to.

All of this is the responsibility of the run time framework, which on
the AS400 is/should be ILE.

Well, as Hans (welcome back, btw) has pointed out ... ILE isn't a runtime environment.  OS/400 is the runtime environment.

I dont follow why so many allow terms to bracket their thinking.

david
(who's still confused why you stay on the platform you clearly hate)

hey, I object! Since when did the luddites take ownership of the platform??