Re: open source IBM i. was Re: From RGP to ¿Java ?

["Raul A. Jager W." <raul@xxxxxxxxxx>]

A simple "form" in html allows the user to go from field to field using
the tab key.
A small JavaScript will make the + behave as "field +" and the - as
"field -".

Vern Hamberg escribió:
> Au contraire, Pierre! Or Jean!!
>
> Any interface where you have to use your eye to locate where you are
> entering text is inherently slow. It IS possible, probably, to write a 
> GUI app that uses tabs and some kind of newline key for navigation, but
> it's not simple to do. Heads down data entry people really fly on green
> screens.
>
> Users that do occasional entry can use a well-designed GUI just fine, I
> suppose.
>
> JMHO
> Vern
>
> Josh Diggs wrote:
>
> > I don't really buy this argument.  Of course people who already know the current process don't want it to change.  In my opinion that has very little to do with green screen versus GUI.  Instead, I think that is indicative of user's resistance to change.  The other side of that coin is that any new users are almost certainly going to be GUI literate.  As such you only have to train functionality, and not interface for new users.
> >
> > I do agree that green screen data entry is faster bar none.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wintermute, Sharon
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:35 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: open source IBM i. was Re: From RGP to ¿Java ?
> >
> >
> > One point I would like to make is that not every one WANTS a GUI.
> >
> > For straight data entry purposes, its much faster to use a "green screen" style of entry.  The end user that actually "uses" the system is not the one pushing for a gui - management is.
> >
> > One client offered the users a choice, 8 out of 10 wanted the green screen.  Speed of data entry was the reason.  Point and click just does not give that to you.  Most of the users used the type-ahead feature.   At that point they didn't want the PC but it was forced on them for email purposes.   Now, they see the benefit of point and click for some things, but straight data entry? - No.
> >
> > Now granted the other 2 were casual users that really didn't enter any data, they simply "managed".  They were the ones that wanted the same GUI type applications they had on their desktops.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sharon Wintermute
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathan Andelin
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:20 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: Re: open source IBM i. was Re: From RGP to ¿Java ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: M. Lazarus
> > > Have you gone on a sales call where your competition has the GUI and 
> > > you don't?  I have and it's not pretty.
> > Your competition provides a GUI, and you don't?  It was about 1993 when we began feeling pressure from prospects and competitors to provide a GUI - which begs the question, what have you been doing for the past 16 years, or so?
> >
> > Waiting for IBM to fix the problem?
> >
> > Nathan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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