I believe this is an extremely accurate analysis. However, I am not one to be counted in that statistic (We have boldly implemented Lansa for the WEB).
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam West
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:47 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Modernizing applications (was: Explaining single level store tonon ipeople)
The problem is also that many of the MIS Directors don't want to change anything, so the programmer can't either.
The Managers are usually near retirement and don't want to rock the boat. They are happy continuing to support old RPG and Query's.
At my last place, he refused to let us do anything in PHP for example.
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Walden H. Leverich <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Walden H. Leverich <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Modernizing applications (was: Explaining single level store to non ipeople)
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 3:26 PM
Today the shift in technologies to Web 2.0 based technology, AJAX and
browser centric tooling around JavaScript, Google Widgets, Dojo, etc.
coupled with SOA or at least Web Service based applications are the
direction
of today and our beloved old iSeries does not play well in the space.
I agree with you... to a point. However, I'm not sure that it's the iSeries that doesn't play well in that space, it's the iSeries programmers. Given the move to cloud computing and SaaS solutions I think a big beefy reliable box like an i could have a large role to play in the industry for many years to come. Let's face it, SaaS is nothing but 5250 with pretty pictures. :-)
Unfortunately it's not the box that's holding us back, it's the programmers. I know I've pushed for many years -- a decade? -- that i programmers need to be learning new technologies, and I'm not alone. At this point everyone should be as conversant w/HTML as they are with DDS.
But most aren't. Call it apathy, call it ignorance, or call it short sightedness I don't care. The fact is if we (the i community) was serving up modern web applications off the i no one would be calling it old. The i hardware and OS can do it all, the programmers can't. (Yes, there are obvious exceptions, but I'm talking mainstream i programmer
here) For a company it can be simpler and cheaper to replace than retool the existing applications, and the current crop of programmers can't do the new stuff. Don't believe me? Then what aren't they doing it?
-Walden
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