Re: V5R4 sales and marketing extended from 1/5/2010 to 1/7/2011

[John Jones <chianime@xxxxxxxxx>]

This isn't JDE's fault.  We're behind on our JDE updates.  For major updates
(cume equivalents) we do a code review to ensure our customizations (over 10
years worth) & the updates won't step on each others toes.  That's a
multi-month project.  Still, if that was the only issue we'd proceed; we do
want the added JDE functionality.

However, it's the 3rd party app that's the problem.  The vendor stopped
enhancing the edition we're on & came out with a replacement product.  We
can buy that product for a reasonable price but the issue is migrating from
the current to the new.  There's no migration tool so every report
(literally hundreds and hundreds) would have to be recreated manually.


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jeepers, how hard would it be for JDE to recompile a few programs up to
> 5.1 so that they would work on 6.1?  Little effort.  Sad.  But they'll
> take your maintenance money...
>
> I understand that upgrading ERP packages can be costly.  We've been
> planning on upgrading from BPCS405CD to ERPLX for years now.  Now the hold
> up is that we want the users to fix their business processes first and not
> assume that new software will fix their ills.  We're getting there.
>
> At least Infor have us 6.1 compatible versions of their BPCS405CD
> programs.  I had to push, and push hard, but once they got over the BS
> delays about waiting until they had 6.1 before they even tried ANZOBJCVN
> they were cooperative.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
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> Group Dekko Services, LLC
> Dept 01.073
> Dock 108
> 6928N 400E
> Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From:   John Jones <chianime@xxxxxxxxx>
> To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   11/10/2009 10:48 AM
> Subject:        Re: V5R4 sales and marketing extended from 1/5/2010 to
> 1/7/2011
> Sent by:        midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Not everyone is so lucky as to be able to keep current.  One of the
> bolt-on
> packages we use with JDE has no upgrade path to i6.1 except to move to
> that
> company's newer package (or a competitor).  The migration effort is
> enormous
> and would involve many man-months of work with no real value other than to
> be able to upgrade the OS.  That has some intrinsic value, sure, but not
> enough to justify the effort.  Oh, we'd also have to update the JDE level,
> which is major enough that a code review of customizations would be
> necessary.
>
> So even though the OS upgrade is free, we'd be talking six figures worth
> of
> labor to be able to do it.
>
> Too much effort with too little payoff.  By all accounts we will likely
> just
> freeze the JDE LPARs at V5R3.  The EnterpriseOne LPARs are already at
> i6.1.
> So we'll be a mixed-release shop for the next several years.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:08 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Great, now the vendors can put off upgrading their software to pass
> > ANZOBJCVN for another year.  They live by two mottos:
> > "Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow."
> > "Maintenance money is supposed to be pure profit."
> >
> > IBM needs to update this site:
> http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/suptschedule.html
>
> > I dropped any vendor that kept dragging their feet and switched
> packages.
> > And I converted my last lpar to 6.1 back in June of two thousand EIGHT.
> >
> >
> > Rob Berendt
> > --
> > Group Dekko Services, LLC
> > Dept 01.073
> > Dock 108
> > 6928N 400E
> > Kendallville, IN 46755
> > http://www.dekko.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:   Kirk Goins <kgoins@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date:   11/10/2009 09:37 AM
> > Subject:        V5R4 sales and marketing extended from 1/5/2010 to
> > 1/7/2011
> > Sent by:        midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > Looks like we can keep selling/buying V5R4 for another year...
> >
> > *http://tinyurl.com/yhmsg3t*
> >
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