Sharon, I was surmising the answers so far that alluded to the fact that not everyone has *ALLOBJ profiles to play with (I do), and not everyone has an sa that helps (I do) instead of hinders. Nothing to do with my situation, just what others had stated...

Crispin.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Wintermute, Sharon" <Sharon.Wintermute@xxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: Disabled Profile and Job Scheduler Jobs ?


If your sa will kill you, what does he do to a regular user? Doesn't the
SA understand that these things happen?
Resetting a disabled profile is just a normal part of supporting your
system.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crispin Bates
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:05 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Disabled Profile and Job Scheduler Jobs ?

I have no authority to do anything with profiles, my sa will kill me if
I
disable my profile, and Rob will give me grief for asking a question he
can
answer because he has a God profile, what should I do?

Well, CHGUSRPRF STATUS(*DISABLED). I know, lets look at the
documentation,
hopefully we can all access the documentation. It says, quite clearly...

Status (STATUS)
Specifies the status of the user profile.

The system will disable a user profile if the number of failed sign-on
attempts reaches the limit specified on the QMAXSIGN system value and
option
2 or 3 has been specified on the QMAXSGNACN system value.

*SAME
The value does not change.
*ENABLED
The user profile is valid for sign-on.
*DISABLED
The user profile is not valid for sign-on until an authorized user
enables
it again. Batch jobs can be submitted under a disabled user profile.
I think it's quite clear that *DISABLED only stops sign-on...

As they say...that was easy...

Just sayin'

----- Original Message ----- From: "jmmckee" <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: Disabled Profile and Job Scheduler Jobs ?


Nice thought, Sharon. But, where I work, the sa is difficult, at
best, to
approach. Doing something that would disable my user profile would
expose
me to a level of grief that I do not need.

John McKee

-----Original message-----
From: "Wintermute, Sharon" Sharon.Wintermute@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:29:09 -0500
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Disabled Profile and Job Scheduler Jobs ?

/snip
2) Not everyone has the level of system authority that you apparently
have...
/snip

Just because he tested it by creating a profile doesn't mean that
anyone
else has to. Anyone with an user profile and access to the job
scheduler could have tested it by simply signing on, setting up the
job,
disabling their own profile with a second session, and running the
job.
Then they could have made the request for someone to reset their
profile.

With users disabling their profile on a daily basis, most shops have
some way of resetting them without programmers having "that level of
system authority".



Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjl
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:10 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Disabled Profile and Job Scheduler Jobs ?

Rob -

1) I didn't consider it a dumb question, and
2) Not everyone has the level of system authority that you apparently
have...

- sjl


Rob wrote:
Ok, I could have picked a different user/job name. Doing so caused
us
to
be focused on anger instead of the goal of encouraging people to
try
simple things versus asking the list. My bad.




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