Re: RES: RES: Email oddity -- MIDRANGE-L

I had a better reply, but the courtesy server cut me off. Trying to regenerate.

Last time I tried SNDEMAIL, I used my work Outlook email for a retur address. When I tried to display headers, Outlook did not show any. I have since tried again, but used my personal email address for sender. If it fails, it will take an hour or two. If that happens, I will try to see the headers and post if there are any.

Shortly after I sent that email, I received an email from the network admin. She told me that theer was no PTR record. She has created one.

Thanks for the information on the PTR record. Shouldn't be rocket science for somebody who administers the servers, I would think. Could be mistaken.

John McKee
-----Original message-----
From: "Rubens Lehmann" rubens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:24:35 -0500
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RES: RES: Email oddity

John,

I must agree with Dennis.

You state "Host Baxter not able to deliver mail to", we can't figure out who
is "Baxter" neither to "whom" it is not able to deliver...

Full headers would be extremely helpful but still not enough, probably we'll
need details on your topology and DNS.

Mail server oddities can be as complex as an SQL with many selects and left
outer joins which misses some set of results without any probable cause. If
show just the table names, nobody will find answers.

If you prefer, mail me privately.

Rubens

-----Mensagem original-----
De: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Em nome de Dennis
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 13 de maio de 2011 15:03
Para: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Assunto: Re: RES: Email oddity

Cannot tell from what you provided. Any chance of sharing the full headers?
There's usually an attachment with those headers, or it's inline. (Some
nice mail servers provide it both ways.)

"jmmckee" <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Two hours after my last attempt, a message was sent to me (I had put my
return address on the email). Message came from QGATE@BAXTER.X.X.X -
the i. Stated Host Baxter not able to deliver mail to....

Does this still seem like a reverse DNS issue?

John McKee

-----Original message-----
From: Dennis iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:05:24 -0500
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RES: Email oddity

Ask the folks who made it possible to have this in DNS, to check the

PTR record for that entry. This is, I believe, the final key to making
it work.

"jmmckee" <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I >thought< I had it fixed.

I used INav and looked at TCP/IP Configuration -> Properties.

Original value for host was the serial number (Sxxxxxxx). And

domain

looked OK for internal. However, I could not ping the machine. The
computer does have an entry in the DNS s3rver, so I changed the host
and domain name to what I was told by the network folks. That name

can

be pinged.

Just tried SNDEMAIL to Cox, again. I was told it did not make it.

I am referring to a line in the header which used to say:
Received: from S1015362.xxxxx.org ([x.x.x.x])

I'll need to try it again to my email account to see if that

changed.

-----Original message-----
From: "Rubens Lehmann" rubens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:40:50 -0500
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"

midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RES: Email oddity

John,

Can't understand what you mean without looking at it... Can you

post

both

headers here, perhaps changing important data with something

generic?

Something like:

From my Outlook, to my mail server, to Gmail:

Received: from mydomain.com ([My Mail Server IP Address])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id "lots_of_numbers";
Fri, 13 May 2011 08:18:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [My WS IP on Internal Network] (HELO rubensmydep)
by mydomain.com (My_Mail_SW_Name)
with ESMTP id "lots_of_numbers" for XXXX@xxxxxxxxx; Fri, 13 May

2011

12:19:45 -0300

From my i, to my mail server, to Gmail:

Received: from mydomain.com ([My Mail Server IP Address])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id "lots_of_numbers";
Fri, 13 May 2011 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [My i IP Address] (HELO MY_I)
by mydomain.com (My_Mail_SW_Name)
with ESMTP id "lots_of_numbers" for rubensXXXX@xxxxxxxxx; Fri,

13

May 2011

12:32:20 -0300

Thanks,

Rubens

-----Mensagem original-----
De: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Em nome de jmmckee
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 13 de maio de 2011 11:23
Para: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Assunto: Re: Email oddity

I >think< I have the answer. I sent an email from Outlook and

from

the i to

my personal email account and looked at the headers.

The issue is that "Received:" is bogus. That, to me, means the

SMPT

attributes. It would be nice if I could see the original value.

I

searched

MIDRANGE and saw something from 2002, but I thought this had been

discussed

more recently, and that a method to see original values - in some

PF,

for

example, existed.

Is there some way to see original values?

John McKee
-----Original message-----
From: jmmckee jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:14:53 -0500
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"

midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: Email oddity

Haven't had THAT thrill yet, but have had others. Coworker

called

somebody years ago on another job. Was put on hold by the system.

He

waited patiently. A little after 5PM, the system announced that

the

business was closed for the day, call again tomorrow, and hung up.

John McKee
-----Original message-----
From: "sjl" sjl_abc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:45:50 -0500
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Email oddity

John -
Not unlike having a support call with Dell technical support

in

Bangalore...

- sjl

John wrote:
Thanks for the article.
Maybe, it >will< be resolved today.
Just (apparently)

<< have to supply the answers, as well as the questions when

asking

some

support people for help. >>

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