Re: Virtual desktop.

Yes, that is correct.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 7/7/2011 10:07 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Thank you for that explanation. So even if the ports are configured for
100MB, and the desktops have 100MB adapters, if it is a decent GB switch
than it shouldn't be an issue, right?


Rob Berendt
-- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 07/07/2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Virtual desktop. Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Rob, It has more to do with latency than anything else. The gig switches almost eliminate latency inside a corporate network and if you have say 12 developers all on the same switch, (the situation I had) then the switch becomes the constraint. A Gb switch eliminated the issue and all was well. If your switching equipment is newer, and has sufficient memory/backplane capacity, you won't have an issue. You'll find the network running at very low usage, until everyone refreshes the screen at one time...... Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile Technology Architects On 7/7/2011 9:33 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Really? That's intense.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
> -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738
> Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx> To:
> Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date:
> 07/07/2011 09:41 AM Subject: Re: Virtual desktop. Sent by:
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Between the VM server and the
> workstation client. Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile
> Technology Architects On 7/7/2011 8:13 AM,rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > For RDP: Was that GB between the server and the power system? Or

GB

>> > between the server and the workstation? Or both?
>> >
>> > For the engineering: See the second cartoon below:
>> > http://search.dilbert.com/comic/3d%20Rendering
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Berendt
>> > -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738
>> > Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
>> > http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>

To:

>> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date:
>> > 07/07/2011 08:47 AM Subject: Re: Virtual desktop. Sent by:
>> > midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx In my experience, the RDP users

should

>> > be OK, but the constraint becomes the LAN connection for them. It
>> > almost has to be gigabit. CAD users, forget about it, it's too slow
>> > for the video. Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile
>> > Technology Architects On 7/7/2011 7:17 AM,rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>>>> >> > Exactly the same two groups of users we are concerned about.

> Engineers

>>>> >> > and developers using RDP.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I discussed that in one of my replies. Hopefully that

answered

> that.

>> > I'd

>>>> >> > like to know Jim's response.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Rob Berendt
>>>> >> > -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett,

IN 46738

>>>> >> > Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
>>>> >> > http://www.dekko.com From: Bryce

Martin<BMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To:

>>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc:

>>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,

>>>> >> > midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 07/07/2011 07:58 AM

Subject:

> Re:

>>>> >> > Virtual desktop.Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Would this

>>>> >> > be something that can be rolled out to ALL users in the

company? Or

>>>> >> > are there certain tasks that this setup doesn't work well

with? How

>>>> >> > well does VMWare work with more resource intensive

applications such

>>>> >> > as AutoCad? Are the developers switching as well? Thanks

Bryce

> Martin

>>>> >> > Programmer/Analyst I 570-546-4777 Jim Oberholtzer
>>>> >> > <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>

Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

>>>> >> > 07/06/2011 05:02 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems

Technical

>>>> >> > Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems

Technical

>>>> >> > Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: Virtual

desktop.

>>>> >> > Yes, where it is: a) backed up regularly, b) protected from

> physically

>>>> >> > walking out the door, and c) cheaper. Only C really

counts.... OK,

>>>> >> > deployment of a new instance of a desk top taking about 30

seconds

> is

>>>> >> > a benefit, and restoring a broken user back to functional in

the

> same

>>>> >> > 30 seconds is of some use. Recovering the boss's lost

spreadsheet he

>>>> >> > deleted yesterday is of marginal value, etc.... Jim

Oberholtzer

> Chief

>>>> >> > Technical Architect Agile Technology Architects On 7/6/2011

3:20 PM,

>>>> >> > Bryce Martin wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > What is the sentiment from the user community?

Is all the

> storage

>>>> >> > network

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > storage then?
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thanks
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Bryce Martin
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Programmer/Analyst I
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 570-546-4777
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rob@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 07/06/2011 04:03 PM
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Please respond to
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

> Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

> Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cc
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Re: Virtual desktop.
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Yes, VMWARE.
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and the skids of workstations keep arriving.
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rob Berendt
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko

Drive Garrett,

> IN 46738

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN

46755

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > http://www.dekko.com From: Jim

> Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>

>> > To:

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

> Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date:

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 07/05/2011 04:08 PM Subject: Re: Virtual

desktop. Sent by:

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx What

virtualization

> software are

>> > you

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > using? VMWare? Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical

Architect

> Agile

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Technology Architects On 7/5/2011 2:52

PM,rob@xxxxxxxxx

> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > We're replacing all of our

Citrix workstations

> with new Wyse

>> > units

>>>> >> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > connect using Virtual Desktop.

When they are

> done then we

>> > will

>>>> >> > start

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > replacing many existing PC's

with them. I would

> suspect new

>> > PC's

>>>> >> > will

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > hard pressed to justify

something other than the

> new

>> > solution. I am

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > barely on the fringe of that

project. Boss has

> ordered a

>> > couple of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > hundred of them. They're

rolling in now.

> They'll be

>> > running Notes,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > System i Access, Office, etc.

I'll let you know

> how that

>> > works.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rob Berendt

>>>> >> > --

> --