Re: Power6-Power7 Save 21 reload issue

[Evan Harris <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well OK, that's what I wanted to hear. I guess Jack must have missed
one of those guys and that's what I was trying to nail down.
We do just that all the time (build a customer set of current images)
and I was just checking if I had missed something.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You do *NOT* need to reload the system with a given RS level to get to
> that level of fixes.  Virtually every O/S upgrade i do is from a custom
> set of images or tape created from a partition that has never been
> reloaded from s new RS images. It's an equivalent level not a 'specific'
> level that is in play here.  If you have an IBM i 7.1 partition and have
> loaded current Technology Refresh, HIPER, DB, CUMe, TCP, Java, etc and
> you create distribution media from that, you have media that's NEWER
> than the most recent respin no matter what level it's at.
>
> It's not about getting to an 'exact' level of PTFs, it's about getting
> to 'at least' that level of PTFs.
>
>     - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
>
> On 8/3/2011 11:17 PM, Evan Harris wrote:
> > Kind of insane if specific hardware requires certain minimum spin levels.
> > You should be able to get there with something a little easier than
> > reloading LIC and then re-applying PTFs.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Kirk Goins<kirkgoins@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > > Per IBM way of thinking, you can only get to a Re-spin level by installing
> > > that level. The idea is IBM makes a master ( re-spin ) with a 'known' set of
> > > code levels and PTFs. They can not guaranty you can get your system to that
> > > very specific set of code by PTFs.  So basically you need to SLIP LIC and
> > > the Base OS with the desired Re-spin media. Then apply all your favorite
> > > PTFs.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Evan Harris<auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I understand re-spin - it was the RSE I missed.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still curious as to how to get a given level of system up to the
> > > > next level if applying cumes and groups as you did is not sufficient.
> > > > Unless you missed the last cume and didn't have the technology refresh
> > > > PTF installed.
> > > >
> > > > Given any standalone system, how would I establish what spin level of
> > > > lic is currently running on it ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Evan, respin is what version of lic levels your running.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes respins, Kirk can break down what the -C and -10 are, looks like
> > > > > > revision C??  Is there a website that says how you can migrate systems
> > > > based
> > > > > > on RSE levels.  From what I was told I had 3 options to choose from, I
> > > > > > choose the route that would take the least amount of time.  Intermixing
> > > > > > power hardware and hmc controlled/non hmc controlled systems seems to be
> > > > a
> > > > > > mix'n'match currently on if it will work or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Kirk Goins<kirkgoins@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > RSE  is a short way to say RS-610-E being Respin V6R1 rev E
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks like from the Link posted earlier
> > > > > > > http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/resave/index.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LIC respins are Alpha and SS1 are Numeric
> > > > > > > V7R1 is currently at -C and -10
> > > > > > > V6R1M1 is currently at -D  and -10
> > > > > > > V6R1M0 is currently at -G and -10
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Evan Harris<auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm familiar with a re-spin, but what does a respin have that
> > > > applying
> > > > > > > > cumes and groups doesn't bring to the table ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Haven't heard the term RSE to describe a respin either - what does it
> > > > > > > > stand for ? Are you sure they are the same thing ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:09 AM,<rob@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Respins or resaves of the OS.  Certain hardware may require that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > LIC
> > > > > > > > > be a certain level before installation.  Oh, it still may be 7.1,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > may have more PTF's built into it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also some "technology refresh" ptf's are very comprehensive and IBM
> > > > > > > > > sometimes generates a new respin to allow you to get an
> > > > installation
> > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > without really having to step through some strange hoops.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Even with a new resave you should apply the latest cume and the
> > > > latest
> > > > > > > > > applicable groups.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I always use the latest resave from:
> > > > http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/resave/index.html
> > > > > > > > > Rob Berendt
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> > > > > > > > Evan Harris
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