I haven't attempted the IP address you list. We were using Class B private addresses, and corporate wants us to use Class A. Shouldn't matter, as those address won't be routed outside.

This, from http://forums.devshed.com/networking-help-109/private-ip-address-ranges-209519.html:

Private IP Address Ranges
Provide IP Addresses are reserved arranges that are guarantee for internal use only.

This allows any network admin assign these address depending on network topology, size of network and desired design method.

Private IP addresses are split into clases, while there are more than 3 classes some used for testing, milterary etc.

The main class groups are
Class A: IP Range - 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255
Class B: IP Range - 172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255
Class C: IP Range - 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255

The rules are Class A, 10 identifies the network part and 0.0.0 indicates the host part so we can have 16,777,214 usuable hosts we cannot use 1.1.1 or 255.255.255

Class B, 172.x identifies the network part and 0.0 indicates the host part so we can have 65,534 usuable hosts remember we cannot use 1.1 or 255.255

Class C, 192.168.x indentifies the network part and 0 indicates the host part, so we can have 254 usuable IP's

From the above, I can only guess that corporate intends to remove the individual NAT routers, as all the hospitals are connected by a leased line to corporate, and corporate office is the only connection to the outside world.

John McKee
-----Original message-----
From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:04:51 -0500
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DBU oddity

On to the networking stuff. Our original network guy flew by the seat of
his pants. My original email address was something ungodly containing
slashes and probably 30 characters.

Now all internal address in all locations in all countries begin with 10
dot, unless, they are in our dmz. In a format of 10 dot x dot y dot z the
dot x will normally signify a city.

Let's take relying upon NAT for example... Let's say you have an internal
address you use of 173.45.161.122. Well, instead of your browser going to
that internal site let's say it mozies on out to the external site with
that IP address. Don't you think your personnel director would be quite
shocked? (If you value your employment I would NOT suggest you try
pointing your browser to it while at work. Trust me, I took an offensive
site, simply pinged it and put that IP address in there.)

We actually had cases of people trying to reach internal sites but getting
external ones instead.


Rob Berendt
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From: "John McKee" <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/02/2011 03:44 PM
Subject: DBU oddity
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



The system has an exit point program installed to associate an IP adress
with a specific device. My involvement is to maintain the datafile.

When networking was started, there weren't a lot of devices, and the
addresses were assigned to 172.16.x.x. The corporate office wants all the
hospitals in the system to convert to a 10.x.x.x addressing method. Since
all the locations use NAT to connect to the private network and then
through the corporate office to the outside world, that doesn't make sense
to me. Is there any rationale for changing addressing behind a NAT
firewall?

The above is to explain my second question. I was told that an IP address
for a device needed to be changed from 172.16.x.x to 10.0.x.x - I can't
recall the exact addresses.

The file used for device assignment is keyed by IP address.

Using DBU, I found the old IP address and updated it to the new one.
Except that it didn't update. I had seen this before and wondered about
it. This IP address change was needed rather quickly, so I tried SQL, a
simple UPDATE. That worked.

Is there anything that would explain why DBU would act like it changed the
key field, but didn't - after at least two attempts, but SQL did,
immediately? Only a guess, but is an object lock involved.

John McKee


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