RE: Power: Was: Classes for IBMi/iSeries? -- MIDRANGE-L

Same management!

I figured that if they were spending $1M a year trying to replace me
that I'd better just go. It took more than two years to convince them
to spend $30K to upgrade the 720 to an 810 even though the maintenance
savings alone was $15K per year. In a company with a $10M+ IT budget.

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Kingsley [mailto:iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:35 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Power: Was: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

Scott, 10 years to convert, are the same folks still employed there.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Ingvaldson, Scott <
Scott.Ingvaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A previous employer has been trying to migrate their System I workload

to a

Windows based solution since 2001. They currently say that they are

"two

years away" from shutting it down. On the other hand, they've been

saying

that since they were on a 720 running V4R5, through two hardware

upgrades, 4

O/S upgrades and now their third Admin.

They are spending $1 million a year on this migration project and

every

year the System I budget line is $0 (actually maintenance only.)

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Lovelady [mailto:iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:48 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power: Was: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

My, such language.

My current job is to eliminate three more System i units from the face

the earth, and one more significant company irrevocably off of the i
platform. And guess who's driving the bulk of the migration? Hint,

isn't my old partner-in-crime, Accenture, who have a whole set of
methodologies for that effort.) No, it is our good friend IBM, whose
concern for the platform would seem dubious at best. One could argue

the

same of me in this situation, I suppose. (Gasp! A traitor in the

midst!)

So
be it; doesn't make the point any less valid.

Of course, IBM won't announce numbers, but from my observations, the i
(referring to the OS and family here) footprint is fading, and has

been for

many, many years. (How many here have been involved in the migration

*to*

the i platform? Personally, I've never heard of even one....) And

that's

a
shame; I hope my observation is incorrect.

Dennis Lovelady
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dennislovelady
--
MIAMI MAN ADMITS TAKING HIS OWN LIFE
-- headline from the Orlando (Florida) Sentinel

BULLSHIT.

Pure bullshit.

Power is the hardware. I wish I could share with everyone how much

revenue

that IBM I contributes to Power. Suffice it to say, IBM i is adding

money
not

just to Power, but to the entire IBM corporation. IBM I has been

extremely

profitable, and the revenue generated from IBM I is noticed within

the

entire

Power organization, if not the entire IBM organization. For those

of us

who

run IBM I, there are future plans going out many many years (sorry,

can't

get into details), do not believe the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and

Doubt)

that

AIX is the only operating system that IBM cares about (or that the

Power

people care about). Is AIX important to IBM, you bet it is. Is IBM

important to IBM, you bet it is. If IBM I wasn't in the picture,

the

Earning

per Share of IBM stock would be affected.

It annoys me to no end when people try to spread the FUD around,

that IBM

only

cares about AIX. Yes, IBM has screwed up the marketing of the

naming of

IBM I

(the old OS/400), but you can cry about it just like you can cry

about

the
new

layout of Facebook.

For those people who have nothing good to say about IBM I, I say

leave

the

platform and see if you can find something 1/2 as good. For those

remaining,

this is your community. This is your livelihood. Make constructive

criticism.

Don't argue about what could have been, should have been, and names.

you

want something there are avenues to get enhancements, new features,

etc.

I

know the COMMON CAAC & the Large User Group have put forth quite a

lot of

requirements for i5/OS at the time, and something like over 65% have

made

it

into IBM i. This is due to the fact that Steve Will and his team

are

listening and working with our community. They have done a great

job

determining which features and functions provide the most value, and

putting

those into the various releases. Do we get everything, no, but we

sure

got

some great stuff in these last few releases.

If I have hurt anyone's feelings, that wasn't the intension. Don,

you

were
the

straw that broke the camel's back. If all we concentrate on is the

negative,

then when people outside of IBM I Google on these discussions, they

are

going

to feel and believe that the machine is not moving forward, when

that

isn't

the case. Promote the platform that you work on, tell others how

good

the

machine is, don't just tell each other on this list, go out and tell

people

about Watson, and that is the same platform that you run your

business

on.
Is

it the same OS, NO, but it is the exact same Power platform.

Pete

--
Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
www.itechsol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

Dennis,

The things that you're as WELL AWARE of as many of the rest of us

include:

1. This o/s is known (thanks to IBM ineptness) by many names, and

these

names

are ACCEPTED BY INDUSTRY when talking about the broad category of

systems

that

run OS/400, uh, I mean i/os, un, I mean..... All of us (with one or

exceptions) generally seem to understand what the others are talking

about.

2. Also as I believe you're well aware of, when IBM says "POWER"

they're

specifically referring and wanting you to be running AIX. To IBM,

os/400(or

whatever) is and has been just another add on legacy (THEIR TERMS)

o/s.

Keep in mind that AIX, is just another mutation of UNIX - BOTH

operating

environments which have been around for as long or longer than CPF

OS/400

- yet for some reason IBM hasn't decided to morph their names along

with

the

seasons... Ever wonder why?

OK, back to our naps...I'm sure trevor will have some retort but I'm

sure

my

spam filter is still working... :)

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