Re: Needing iso images because he is stealing licenses WAS: MIDRANGE-L Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1611

Less someone think IBM is being overly onerous, I'll add that they are not
unique with their software licenses not following the hardware. Cisco, for
instance, doesn't allow the OS for their routers to be resold.
http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-license-agreement.html clearly states
"CUSTOMER SHALL NOT: .. RENT, LEASE, DISTRIBUTE, SELL, OR CREATE DERIVATIVE
WORKS OF THE SOFTWARE."

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:06 AM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

First: I agree with Pete and Luis, it is stealing.

Second: What seems to be misunderstood is that you do not purchase IBM
i, you license it. The license is for the licensee (that being the
person that paid money to IBM). Most of these licenses are not
transferable so when you buy hardware of Ebay etc you are buying, well,
hardware. There are some situations where you got 'base licenses'
transferred with the machine but those never went past the operating
system. No compilers, no editors, no BRMS, AJS, Performance tools, IBM i
Access, etc etc.

Third: (And very important) When you install that operating system every
70 days, you must agree to the license agreement to install the O/S. By
pressing the "I Accept" button and then continuing the install you are
stealing.

Some of us have invested VERY significant amounts of money and time to
make available the Current OS levels (IBM i 5.4, 6.1, 7.1) a very
reasonable cost to learn, try, study and all without having to break
IBM's agreements. You also don't have to own your own or machine or
search the world for .isos to which you are not entitled.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis - www.iDevCloud.com

On 12/1/2011 2:00 AM, Luis Rodriguez wrote:

Pete,

Not in the States, and not from the US (I'm from Venezuela) but: I second
your views and position 100%.

If you saw this thread history, it all began as a (seemingly) innocuous
request from Mr. "Bob Smith" for iso images and it ended with a unsigned
tirade from the same (now anonymous?) poster against the US and its

trading

practices.

These lists are made of (and for) midrange professionals. As much as many
of us would like to have our own toys to play with, there are enough
resources out there (paid or not) to exercise our skills. We don't need

(I

think) these kind of posters here.


I don't usually respond to these type of posts (non-technical), and I
apologize if the last paragraph is a little harsh, but his attitude

really

got me.


Regards,

Luis Rodriguez
IBM Certified Systems Expert — eServer i5 iSeries

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