A CMS will retain a history of everything that happened to an object, from
the time the object was "registered into inventory" going forward. They will
also give you the ability to ensure that the current copy of the source
matches the current executable object.

I've seen some program objects that were created back in the CISC days on
newer machines. What is your goal?

Paul Nelson
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:29 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Create/Last Used Program Dates

No CMS here. But I wondered if a CMS could/would retain the original
creation date. I haven't looked at APIs, but I couldn't find a CHG command
that would do that, though the RTVOBJD command can retrieve the creation
date.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:04 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Create/Last Used Program Dates

A decent change management system should have that info...assuming you
don't have it set up to purge the logs.

Charles

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Jerry C. Adams <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did some more searches and still couldn't find the answer to my first
question.  I thought, perhaps, that when a program was re-compiled, that
the
creation date *might* be unchanged; i.e., retaining it from the object it
was replacing.

But I tested that (lame) theory by re-compiling a program.  Its creation
date is now today.  So I guess there's no way to tell when a program was
originally created absent a journal entry, right?

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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fruit salad.
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:26 AM
To: Midrange-L
Subject: Create/Last Used Program Dates

I have a program that, using DSPOBJD, shows a creation date of 9 May 2006.
I know there's been a lot of discussion about creation dates and,
especially, last used dates here.  I tried searching the archives and the
Info Center but could not find what I need.



Is the created date the actual date that the object was created?  It,
also,
shows a last used date of 9 December 2011 (today).  I ran this at 0630,
when
I first got here, and I'm the first one in the building.  In fact every
program I checked (even unused or rarely used ones) shows the same last
used
date.  The library was backed up (via a WRKJOBSCDE entry) early this
morning.  It seems that saving the library also changes the last used
date;
is that correct?



Jerry C. Adams

IBM i Programmer/Analyst

We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

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