RE: decommissioning -- MIDRANGE-L

I did an Aldon implementation for a BPCS user in Detroit a couple years ago.
They drank the Kool-Aid about the new GUI version, and I couldn't believe
the convoluted method they use to produce their GUI screens. IIRC, first
they build them as green screens, and then they get passed through some exit
programs that generate something that runs in a browser.

It took an extra day or two just to get the display files registered to
Aldon, because what the end user sees is not really what the developer
produces.

Infor was not very helpful in describing what they do under the covers,
either, but I did learn that this new software is not built with AS/SET. It
seems that all the AS/SET programmers have disappeared and they can't find
any.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:07 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: decommissioning

Infor, and then some...

If it was only over a barrel, it would be OK, but geesh. It's my
opinion Infor is actively trying to push companies off the platform due
to the pricing and other policies. I know when I was in charge as VP-IT
the first thing the Infor rep told me is we had to "get off that crappy
old software" and get into a Windows version. That "crappy old
software" was Infinium. Still works well to this day and that company
has no need to replace it. (no commentary on Infinium is requested nor
accepted) I rather unceremoniously tossed him from the building with a
admonishment to never come back. (He was replaced by the area manager
that day with someone that could spell IBM i)

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On 9/11/2012 3:44 PM, Paul Nelson wrote:

Is whatever SSA became still making folks bend over the barrel?

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Ofrob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:13 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: decommissioning

Amen brother on the comments about the ERP companies.

Rob Berendt
-- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept
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6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: DrFranken
<midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 09/11/2012 03:19 PM Subject: Re:
decommissioning Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Do you keep
the key to your house under the mat and the one to your car above the
visor? Seriously IBM keeps a grip on keys and software because they
invest a phenomenal amount of money writing and maintaining it and
giving it away doesn't do anything for their bottom line. Would I like
to see better deals, lower prices, or developer license pricing? Sure
I would but poking IBM for keeping control of what is theirs doesn't
get us there. Oh and if you think IBM is tough try getting keys for
most of the ERP and other LOB software! IBM is positively overflowing
with grace compared to most of these companies! - Larry "DrFranken"
Bolhuis On 9/11/2012 2:42 PM, Mark D wrote:

The best way to handle it would be to pull the drive and plug it into

pc and then use one of the numerous free linux tools to wipe it.

And speaking of value, I'm always surprised at how much the value on i
stuff falls. The used market must suck thanks to IBM's grip on keys

and

used software.

Thanks,
Mark

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