Re: IBM i 7.1 Technology Refresh 5 offers performance, usability, and integration enhancements

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

As Larry pointed out it depends on if you can start the system from your 
media or not.  If you need optical, either A) you build it yourself by 
creating you own install media, B) download the latest respin from IBM, 
or C) remove any hardware not supported on your current LIC media.   (C 
is almost never an option)

BRMS is great once the LIC is loaded and the disk are all ready, and the 
OS is loaded.  Getting all that done your about on your own.  Once the 
OS is loaded then the BRMS instructions pick up and you complete your 
restore.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 10/10/2012 10:05 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> Just asking, how much change does this amount to if your using BRMS with
> all of this.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> > >  ok.
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> > >
> > > >>  This is where I was going with the question.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM,<rob@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > > >>>  Jim's right.  TR's aren't like V5R4M5 or 6.1.1 where you had to follow
> > > > >>>  the
> > > > >>>  infocenter section "Replacing Licensed Internal Code and IBM i of the
> > > > >>>  same
> > > > >>>  version and release".  Granted, you DO really have to read their
> > > > >>>  instructions as some of them may throw in an extra IPL or something.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  If you got a nice BP I would recommend getting the respin if for no other
> > > > >>>  reason than to keep it on a shelf in case:
> > > > >>>  - you decide to spin up a new lpar.  This would have the new TR on it.
> > > > >>>  - in a DR situation you need to boot from disc.  Be a bear to have a
> > > > >>>  brand
> > > > >>>  spanking new box only to find out your respin is too old to boot that new
> > > > >>>  box.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  Rob Berendt
> > > > >>>  --
> > > > >>>  IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1
> > > > >>>  Group Dekko
> > > > >>>  Dept 1600
> > > > >>>  Mail to:  2505 Dekko Drive
> > > > >>>             Garrett, IN 46738
> > > > >>>  Ship to:  Dock 108
> > > > >>>             6928N 400E
> > > > >>>             Kendallville, IN 46755
> > > > >>>  http://www.dekko.com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  From:   Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>  To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > >>>  Date:   10/10/2012 10:51 AM
> > > > >>>  Subject:        Re: IBM i 7.1 Technology Refresh 5 offers performance,
> > > > >>>  usability,      and integration enhancements
> > > > >>>  Sent by:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  No.  The TRs now take the place of the re-spin of the BASE DVD.  You can
> > > > >>>  certainly download one if you need it they still build them, but
> > > > >>>  applying the TR group is sufficient to keep the system up to date.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > >>>  Chief Technical Architect
> > > > >>>  Agile Technology Architects
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  On 10/10/2012 9:45 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> > > > > >>>  >  When you put on this new TR5 like for TR4, don't you need a new RSE
> > > > >>>  DVD??
> > > > > >>>  >
> > > > > >>>  >  On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> > > > > >>>  >  midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
> > > > > >>>  >
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    TR 5 has not gone to GA yet.  Expected date is out a week, maybe
> > > > >>>  two.
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    One of the PTFs normally associated with TRs MF99005 is out but
> > > > >>>  that
> > > > >>>  is
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    a prereq for other PTFs that are being built now.
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    Chief Technical Architect
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    Agile Technology Architects
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    On 10/10/2012 9:34 AM,Tommy.Holden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Anyone been able to download TR5 yet?  TR4 is still the only
> > > > >>>  thing
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    showing
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   on fix central so perhaps there's somewhere else on IBM's
> > > > >>>  monolithic
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    maze?
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Tommy Holden
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   From:rob@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   To:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Date:   10/04/2012 07:31 AM
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Subject:        IBM i 7.1 Technology Refresh 5 offers
> > > > >>>  performance,
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   usability, and  integration enhancements
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   IBM announcement
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   IBM i 7.1 Technology Refresh 5 offers performance, usability,
> > > > >>>  and
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   integration enhancements
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS212-379#h2-availx
> > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Some stuff coming in TR5 (available October 9)
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Some stuff in a new HTTP group (available December 15)
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Some stuff in a new DB2 group PTF (planned November 9)
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Also announced was some new hardware.
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   Rob Berendt
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   -- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko
> > > > >>>  Dept
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock
> > > > >>>  108
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755http://www.dekko.com
> > > > > > > > >>>  >>>  >    >   --
> > > > > > > >>>  >>  >    --
> > > > >>>  --