RE: POWER 7 Upgrade -- MIDRANGE-L

I have some notes, but have not tested as of yet.
Storage management recovery will vary depending on %full, disk type, disk size, controller type.
My last 6 hour experience was on a 99% full asp, 10,000 k disks, embedded controller.
One tip was to delete all user libraries before clearing the asp.
This should minimize storage management recovery time.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello - ML
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:16 PM
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Subject: RE: POWER 7 Upgrade

The function that you are describing, basically keeps the RAID striping in place, and just deletes everything but the load source & LIC. THIs is great for reloading the system.

Pete

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: POWER 7 Upgrade

Roberto,

You always come across as pretty clear and literate. Don't get me wrong.
But could you point to which recovery process in the manual that is "erase user asp". Perhaps something is lost in that translation.

1. Restore Licensed Internal Code
2. Install Licensed Internal Code and Initialize system
3. Install Licensed Internal Code and Recover Configuration
4. Install Licensed Internal Code and Restore Disk Unit Data
5. Install Licensed Internal Code and Upgrade Load Source

I'm pretty sure option 2 would require me to reset the raid and/or asp's again.
I think the only time I've used option 1 is for upgrading to 545 or 611.
But maybe that wouldn't be a bad idea for a case where the LIC and disk setup was done with installation media?

Rob Berendt
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From: Roberto José Etcheverry Romero <yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/01/2013 03:44 PM
Subject: Re: POWER 7 Upgrade
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You could just "erase user asp" and start anew from the save21 tape, that would be almost as fast as anything, since the asp is already created and initialized. you just erase it and start anew. just a few minutes for directory recovery on IPL and install OS from tape...

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:14 PM, <broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Right book wrong page. Search for:

Recovering your system to a different system

From:
rob@xxxxxxxxx
To:
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:
05/01/2013 01:52 PM
Subject:
RE: POWER 7 Upgrade
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"user library restore"?
Well, there's more than that. Are you planning on rekeying all users,

etc

from scratch on the new box and just restore user libraries (and
directories)?

I think there is something more middle of the road.

Other things to consider is this isn't your father's AS/400. There's
a lot of configuration stored in various stream files in the IFS. Do
you really want to use this as a time to evaluate every line of your
HTTP directives to put in a clean system? That's just one tiny
minuscule example.

Rob Berendt
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From: broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/01/2013 02:40 PM
Subject: RE: POWER 7 Upgrade
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Here's the thing. I see the ReSpin K on the Power 5 to be somewhat
trivial.
Shouldn't take that long and like Jim said, it's the absolute safest
way to go.
I don't have a problem with that. And I'm probably leaning that way.
But doing the restore from the save 21 basically rebuilds the new
system from scratch because you rebuild the ASP. My question has
always been is

there

a better way I can consider that does the same thing but to build the
Power 7 to point where the restore is already past the system build
ready for User library restore And I have a system that started
somewhere around OS 4.2 and there are things in that "closet" I'd like
to throw out.

From:
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To:
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:
05/01/2013 01:23 PM
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RE: POWER 7 Upgrade
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Sounds like a good reason to be at respin K like his BP is planning.

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/01/2013 02:04 PM
Subject: RE: POWER 7 Upgrade
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I did a 9406-550 to 8205-E6C migration April 2012, V6R1M1, had several
issues related to not having the latest LIC (F at the time) and
required PTFs for Power7 hardware, also double check your firmware
levels. I had

IPL the Power7 from LIC respinF, trying to restore the LIC from the

Power5

caused the issue. In other words we did whats called (SLIP the LIC)
Power7 migration complete, (8 hours total, 2 hour restore 21) This was
with LTO3 backup, LTO5 restore using LTO3 media, to SSD drives.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DrFranken
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: POWER 7 Upgrade

It's not at all about 'the money' it's about who's really still
running

6.1. and getting the most numbers of folks to the current release.
With this feature you have to WANT or NEED to run 6.1 because it's
about $1000. If you don't want or need it you'll go to 7.1, save the
$1000

and

IBM will know you're not running 6.1 because you cannot.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
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On 5/1/2013 11:27 AM, broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

IBM really really doesn't want you to do 6.1.1 unless you're willing
to pay for it.
My BP got pretty upset when he figured out that they just charged
for a code.
Who cares if you go to 6.1.1. 7.1 will happen. Just not today!

From:
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To:
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:
05/01/2013 10:21 AM
Subject:
Re: POWER 7 Upgrade
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Thanks for the info.

Rob Berendt

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