Re: Size of cume & groups

You can do the burn part on the PC, the building of the images themselves must be done on IBM i itself.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 5/31/2013 11:40 AM, John McKee wrote:

Several years ago, I found a procedure to apply a Windows service pack to
an install CD. The result was an iso image that was current.

Rob's mention of building a respin reminded me of that. Is there a way to
build a respin which includes all current PTFs using a pc?

More of a curiousity than anything else.

John McKee


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:22 AM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You can put them into another image catalog and use that after the
Upgrade to apply the PTFs. No need to use OPT01, but you can if you'd
like. Also if space is an issue you could delete the catalog used for
the ugprade and then FTP in the PTF images.

The only way to have the PTFs applied 'at the same time' is to have them
already present on the media used for the upgrade. This requires you to
create distribution media from a system already at 7.1 with current
PTFs. For most small shops this isn't an option because if they had a
system at 7.1 already they would be done upgrading! :-)


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 5/31/2013 11:17 AM, John McKee wrote:

In my reading about the image catalog, I have not seen where it is

created

specifically on the load source. Is that internal?

After the upgrade is complete and PTFs are being applied, it looks, to

me,

like those will be loaded from the optical drive, a 6331. Still, not
horrid.

Based on old installs, I had gotten the idea that the PTFs could also be
dumped into an image catalog and just get it all done at one time. Pays

to

read closer.


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:34 AM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

John,

Remember there needs to be a bit more free space on the Load

Source

disk as well in order to use an Image Catalog for the upgrade. I'm
thinking you'll be OK with Rob's 8G total but you wouldn't have made it
with the 56G! Also remember that's the Post upgrade PTFs!! The actual
upgrade media aren't in that total.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 5/31/2013 10:10 AM, John McKee wrote:

Very nice to know. I was beginning to think upgrading from v5r4 using

an

image catalog would not be possible, due to the size you initially saw.
Wit 68 percent used out of 246.1G, that left 76.994. More than enough,

but

by the time I get to the upgrade, that could well change.

I definitely see the advantage of using a respin.

John McKee


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:40 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Apparently IBM does dedupe it when it gets down to the final media.

It

went from 56.14GB down to 8.4GB, on 5 optical volumes.

Original:
Size of order 56.14 GB
Down to:
PRTY = 1
COERVER = 34-STATUS
SOURCE = HSB
COERNBR = H09717676
CNTYNBR = 000
FRMNODE = BLDISDMC
FRMUSER = R370ACK
SHPDATE = 20130530180048
TEXT = Fix data will be mailed on Optical media.
TEXT = Package contained 1622 fixes with 18,219,612 Kilo-bytes of

dat

TEXT = Total amount of data shipped was 8,402,912 Kilo-bytes
TEXT = Package shipped on 005 Optical volume(s)
TEXT = SDF Order# B1832056 was Shipped at 11:55:47 05/30/2013
NBRDATA = 0014


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From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 05/30/2013 09:20 AM
Subject: Size of cume & groups
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



I just ordered all the latest cume and groups for 7.1 on media via Fix
Central. With the size of that I am glad I gave up on trying to

download

such stuff.


Order details
Order number 86935683
Date created Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:55:30 AM
Order state Order Media
Delivery method Physical media
Customized order? false
Size of order 56.14 GB
Include requisites? true

My download list
SF99572
SF99709
SF99362
SF99637
SF99359
SF99380
SF99705
SF99381
SF99706
SF99368
SF99627
SF99647
SF99701
SF99145
SF99363
SF99364
SF99366
SF99367
SF99369
SF99617
SF99708
SF99707
SF99710


Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1
Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com

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