Re: Catching up of 7.1 PTFs

[Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>]

I assume I can use the image catalog and virtual optical for installing the
LIC?

You specific CD for the LIC but catalog, NFS, CD for the OS...

I've done actual OS upgrades from IMGCLG, just want to confirm that there's
nothing special about SLIPping the LIC.

Charles


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Roberto José Etcheverry Romero <
yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dr, would the steps for that be:
> 1. IPL from CD (the updated one)
> 2. Slip install LIC code (option 1)
> 3. Once the LIC has IPLed, Install OS from media (either catalog, nfs or
> cd, but in any case, the B29xx_01 or equivalent, updated to the same lvl as
> the LIC)
> 4. Once THAT is done, install ptfs.
>
> Is that right? Does the refreshing of the OS affect any setting or system
> value?
>
> best regards,
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:08 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Generally when you go this way you slip in a new copy of the LIC and IBM
> > also directs to install a a refreshed base O/S so that it has at least
> > the minimum level of PTFs in order to work with the updated LIC. After
> > this you'll do PTFs to bring both up to current.
> >
> >
> >          - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
> >
> > www.frankeni.com
> > www.iDevCloud.com
> > www.iInTheCloud.com
> >
> > On 6/13/2013 10:01 PM, Charles Wilt wrote:
> >
> > > Ok I found IBM documentation for SLIP install of the LIC...
> > >
> > > Also found some for SLIP install of the OS...
> > >
> > > Do I need to worry about the OS?
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
> > > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > While I have been successful getting PTFs installed, Roberto is right
> > > > about the I_BASE, it might be best to plan on a slip install.
> > > >
> > > > To avoid that, apply TR3 first, then TR5 and then TR6. There are PTFs
> in
> > > > those that expand the space needed to store PTFs.  Better to slip
> > > > install the LIC in the end.
> > > >
> > > > You might also consider permanently applying the current PTFs first
> too.
> > > > Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > Chief Technical Architect
> > > > Agile Technology Architects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/13/2013 6:17 AM, Roberto José Etcheverry Romero wrote:
> > > > > Charles,
> > > > > I tried to get a TR0 7.1 machine up to TR6 with IBM supplied acum dvd
> > > > > images. Fails miserably with "not enough space on lic disk" (even
> > though
> > > > > they are 146gb disks and attempting to reserve more for lic code
> doesnt
> > > > > work).
> > > > > Only solution? Get an update I_BASE dvd and do a slip of the new LIC.
> > > > THEN
> > > > > install the acum and ptf groups. It will shave a lot of time from the
> > > > > installation.
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> > > > > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >   I'm not sure I'm in the "Don't worry about the 'Not Installed'"
> > > > > > >   category, since that usually means PTFs are missing.  Ordinarily
> > just
> > > > > > >   re-applying the cumulative will fix that but it's not something I
> > > > like
> > > > > > >   to leave for very long.  You will never know if everything is
> > > > working as
> > > > > > >   it should without all of the PTFs installed.  Installing a new
> LPP
> > is
> > > > > > >   one way to get that condition, but there are other ways too, and
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > > >   like the untidiness of leaving them uninstalled.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Larry's correct about read the cover letter for TR6, there is a
> PTF
> > > > for
> > > > > > >   the double IPL's but to be safe I'd plan on watching this one.
> >  Also
> > > > > > >   it's going to take Larry's  "some minutes" (meaning lots) to
> > install.
> > > > > > >   Plan and extra couple of hours.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > > > >   Chief Technical Architect
> > > > > > >   Agile Technology Architects
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   On 6/12/2013 11:00 PM, DrFranken wrote:
> > > > > > > >   >  Charles,
> > > > > > > >   >
> > > > > > > >   >         You WERE Joking that the system is 3 years and 5 TRs
> > > > behind on
> > > > > > >   PTFs and
> > > > > > > >   >  you think you're going to avoid a double IPL?????
> > > > > > > >   >
> > > > > > > >   >         Of course it's going to work, this IS IBM i after all
> > but
> > > > you will
> > > > > > >   be
> > > > > > > >   >  doing at least two IPLs here. Read the cover letter for TR6
> as
> > > > you may
> > > > > > > >   >  need a special PTF to avoid having to manually IPL multiple
> > > > times. (I
> > > > > > > >   >  can't recall when that dude came out.)
> > > > > > > >   >
> > > > > > > >   >         Don't worry about the "Not Installed" as that simply
> > > > indicates
> > > > > > >   that new
> > > > > > > >   >  LPPs (Licensed Program Products) have been installed since
> that
> > > > CUME was
> > > > > > > >   >  installed on this machine.
> > > > > > > >   >
> > > > > > > >   >             - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
> > > > > > > >   >
> > > > > > > >   >  www.frankeni.com
> > > > > > > >   >  www.iDevCloud.com
> > > > > > > >   >  www.iInTheCloud.com
> > > > > > > >   >
> > > > > > > >   >  On 6/12/2013 10:48 PM, Charles Wilt wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    All,
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    I've been asked to get a 7.1 system up to date on
> > PTFs...
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    Since I've been away from the admin side for a
> while, I
> > > > thought I'd
> > > > > > >   see if
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    anybody was aware of any gotchas
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    Here's what WRKPTFGRP shows
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    PTF Group             Level  Status
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99710               10096  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99710               10229  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99709                   7  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99709                  21  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99708                   2  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99708                   3  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99707                   1  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99701                   2  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99701                   4  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99637                   1  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99627                   1  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99617                   2  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99572                   2  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99572                   4  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99369                   2  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99369                   4  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99368                   2  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99368                   3  Not installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99367                   2  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99366                   1  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99366                   2  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99362                   3  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99362                   5  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    SF99145                   1  Installed
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    Now SF99707 is the TR, so I think I should be able to
> > > > able the
> > > > > > >   latest TR
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    without a double IPL correct?
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    I'm a little confused that the cumes (10096&   10229)
> > > > show not
> > > > > > >   installed as
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    DSPPTF 5770ss1 shows:
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    TC10229  Temporarily applied
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    TC10096  Permanently applied
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    Does anybody see or know of any reason why getting
> and
> > > > applying the
> > > > > > >   latest
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    cume, TR, and other groups might not work?
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >    Charles
> > > > > > > > > >   >>  >
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