RE: Future Programmers - The future of IBM i

["Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

People can and do make that much by being on welfare and food stamps. 

The outsourcing companies think they're doing you a favor by offering $20
per hour.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
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For most I would guess at $40K - $60K - but since I had no intention of
applying I didn't ask.


On 2013-06-14, at 8:15 PM, Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jon,
>
> What's their definition of "affordable" ???   I've seen way too many
> companies that want iSeries staff with years of experience at
> $10-20/hr...and they complain if you even think above that.   
>
> DR2
>
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>
> On 2013-06-14, at 3:03 PM, Michael Ryan <michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I think there may be value in teaching
> > integration techniques along with modern RPG and ILE, but there are
enough
> > graybeards around to handle the old stuff.
>
> Sorry Michael - in my experience you're wrong.  
>
> I've talked to multiple large customers in the past 12 months who are
> considering a move away form IBM i because they can't get staff.
Correction
> - can't get _affordable_ staff. And a large number of unemployed
graybeards
> just want to keep doing same old same old until they retire. These
> businesses need to integrate mobile, web, etc. with what they have.
> Maintenance is rarely just a fix-it issue - upgrades of existing apps are
> always needed.
>
> I have also talked to a number customers who are actively training their
own
> newbies - or considering developing such a program.
>
>
> Jon Paris
>
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