RE: California Software/Infinite Corporation

It depends on whether you're asking forgiveness from a man or a woman.

:-))

Paul Nelson
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-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve
Landess
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:01 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: California Software/Infinite Corporation

Buck -

I'm not sure who coined it, but this is the phrase I live by:
"It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for
permission."

;-)

-sjl


"Buck Calabro" wrote in message
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On 2/26/2015 3:06 PM, Alan Campin wrote:

Again and again I hear the same thing. I am not going to call a procedure,
I am not going to use anything modern. I won't use anything unless it has
a
program call. The field name has to be 6 characters. Just create files.
Don't worry about normalizing. I will not use SQL. On and On.

Unfortunately I just don't see it changing.

At the genuine risk of my employment here, I work for a bureaucratic,
hide bound, 'We've always done it that way', 'If it ain't broke don't
fix it' sort of organisation. We are the poster child for the situation
you are describing.

It's changing here.

It's changing here because my colleagues and I are changing it. We
aren't asking for permission to write service programs - we are writing
them. Our less developed colleagues are coming along for the ride
because they have no choice. We got tired of the Mexican standoff and
simply started doing the right thing, permission-in-advance be damned.

I was once a junior programmer. I was once afraid to make waves. Now
I'm old, and the waves aren't so scary. This list in particular is
frequented by programmers who are more senior than junior, whose voices
carry weight, whose opinions matter.

It's changing here. It can change elsewhere too.

--buck

As usual I have slaughtered many electrons in vain.