Rob,
STRQSH was used, not QSH.
Also turned on auditing for STRQSH.
Paul
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And did you try running QSH once?
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/29/2015 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
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Rob,
No double CD in my case.
Only ADDLIBLE and CHGLIBL appearing, no QSH.
Looking at both Name of object and Command string
Name of object CDONAM A 10 611
Command string CDCMDS A 65 640
CHGOBJAUD OBJ(QSH) OBJTYPE(*CMD) OBJAUD(*ALL)
Object auditing value changed for QSH in QSYS type *CMD.
CPYAUDJRNE ENTTYP(CD) OUTFILE(QGPL/QAUDIT) JRNRCV(*CURCHAIN)
Message . . . . : 7472514 entries converted from journal QAUDJRN in
QSYS.
Cause . . . . . : The DSPJRN command completed.
Paul
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Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
How did you turn on auditing?
CHGOBJAUD OBJ(QSYS/QSH) OBJTYPE(*CMD) OBJAUD(*ALL) QSH CHGOBJAUD
OBJ(QSYS/QSH) OBJTYPE(*CMD) OBJAUD(*NONE)
CPYAUDJRNE ENTTYP(CD) OUTFILE(QGPL/QAUDITCD) JRNRCV(*CURCHAIN)
FROMTIME(102915 1000) TOTIME(102915 1020)
RUNQRY QRYFILE(QGPL/QAUDITCDCD)
Shift to column . . . . . . 690
9....+...70....+...71....+...72....+...73....+...74
Specific Entry Object Library Object
data type name name type
length
30 X QSH QSYS *CMD
******** End of report ********
Did you look at the right file? Your command CPYAUDJRNE ENTTYP(CD)
OUTFILE(QGPL/QAUDITCD)...
creates a file named such
qauditcdCD
notice the double CD?
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/29/2015 09:49 AM
Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
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Rob,
After turning on auditing for QSH, and checking QAUDITCD, QSH is NOT
appearing.
Why?
What am I missing?
Paul
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Guess we'll call that belt and suspenders then.
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/29/2015 08:10 AM
Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
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Rob,
The library object was audited, along with ADDLIBLE, CHGLIBL, EDTLIBL.
Today I also turned on auditing for QSH, going back and reviewing
journals.
Normally I look at QAUDITJS, in this case I had to look at QAUDITCD.
We prefer to control the library list via the jobd, with limited use of
ADDLIBLE, CHGLIBL.
Paul
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Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
You're still auditing ADDLIBLE. I say audit the library, not the command.
For instance:
CHGLIBL
Jobs using a library list from a job description Some custom RPLLIBL which
can replace your library list with that of a job description, data area or
user profile. (We have this) Qualified commands: DEFUNCTLIB/THEIRCMD
Qualified calls: CALL DEFUNCTLIB/THEIRPGM Commands dumped into QGPL or
QUSRSYS from them which execute programs from their library.
Proxy commands which are redirected to their library.
Here's a start up program from Infor:
...
DCL VAR(&USRLIB) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(10)
DCL VAR(&INLIBL) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(396)
DCL VAR(&SAVLIBL) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(2750)
DCL VAR(&LIBL) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(2750)
DCL VAR(&RPLIBL) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(2760)
...
RTVJOBA USER(&USER) INQMSGRPY(&INQMSGRPY) +
OUTQ(&OUTQ) OUTQLIB(&OUTQLBR) DATE(&DATE) +
SWS(&SWS) USRLIBL(&LIBL) DATFMT(&DATFMT) ...
CHGVAR VAR(&SAVLIBL) VALUE(&LIBL)
RTVDTAARA DTAARA(&USRLIB/INLIBL) RTNVAR(&INLIBL) ...
CHGVAR VAR(&CMD) VALUE('CHGLIBL LIBL(' *CAT &INLIBL *TCAT ')')
...
CALL PGM(QCMDEXC) PARM(&CMD &LEN)
...
and when the programs ends it changes your library list back.
This kind of stuff is not uncommon.
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/28/2015 04:41 PM
Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
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Rob,
QAUDITCD showed me everything I need.
SELECT * FROM qgpl/QAUDITcd WHERE locate ('G1',CDCMDS ) <> 0
662 00000000000218985723 T CD 2015-10-28-08.00.02.563904
BRCCHKFREE CPACOPER 406,251 VPVPGM01 BRCPGMSN *S
52 C ADDLIBLE QSYS *CMD E ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1PGMS)
53 C ADDLIBLE QSYS *CMD E ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1FILES)
Thanks
Paul
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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
Rob,
Library object already being audited.
Which QAUDIT file should I be looking at for this?
Paul
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Yes, audit the library object, as shown in the reply below.
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/28/2015 03:19 PM
Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
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Rob,
I was auditing for ADDLIBLE, EDTLIBLE.
I was NOT auditing for the scenario where a library was added via CALLP
Cmd('ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1PGMS)':200) Would this require different auditing?
Paul
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Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
First of all let me say that I love monitors that "assume" that when a
failure occurs that it's only because of a certain reason, like the
library was already in the library list. Not that there's any potential
that someone deleted the library. Because that obviously couldn't happen.
;-) But if that's not the case, IOW, if it can ignore that the libraries
no longer exist, then the application coded for it and you can ignore it.
Although I can't imagine a scenario that would be true. Well, maybe. Add
"custom commands" library to top of system library list. If that fails
then either the library is already in the library list or that it doesn't
exist and we can use the 'regular' system commands. I'm not saying I'm
perfect (I've got to fix a program I wrote that did an ALCOBJ with NO
monmsg).
Now which were you auditing for?
- Jobs that called QSH? or
- Jobs that had those libraries in their library list?
Date sent . . . . . . : 10/28/15 Time sent . . . . . . : 14:48:13
Message . . . . : addlible robdelme
Code . . . . . . . . : T - Audit trail entry
Type . . . . . . . . : ZR - Object read access
Object . . . . . . . :
Type . . . . . . . :
Date . . . . . . . . : 10/28/15
Time . . . . . . . . : 14:48:13.432880
...
Job . . . . . . . . : 756649/ROB/ROBS1
F15=Display only entry specific data
*...+....1....+....2....+....3..
'RROBDELME QSYS *LIB ¬
Yes, it does rather grind me that IBM fails to put the object in the
"Object" and "Type" and makes you look in the "Entry specific data".
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/28/2015 02:14 PM
Subject: RE: Identifying what job is calling QSH
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Chuck,
The 2 JS entries contain for job name, QZSHSH and QP0ZSPWP, does not show
the name of the job calling QSH.
Entry Sequence Code Type Timestamp Job
User Job Program Program Pr
length number name name number name library AS
3,726 00000000000218985752 T JS 2015-10-28-08.00.02.810256
QZSHSH CPACOPER 406,267 QWTPIIPP QSYS *S
3,726 00000000000218985756 T JS 2015-10-28-08.00.02.830352
QP0ZSPWP CPACOPER 406,268 QWTPIIPP QSYS *S
By checking QHST I did find a few jobs that started at 8:00, I checked
those job logs, found this.
CPF1124 Information 00 10/28/15 08:00:00.093493 QWTPIIPP
QSYS 04C0 *EXT
Message . . . . : Job
406251/CPACOPER/BRCCHKFREE started on 10/28/15 at
08:00:00 in subsystem BATCH_CM in
GPL. Job entered system on 10/28/15 at
08:00:00.
CPC2196 Completion 00 10/28/15 08:00:02.563700 QLICUSRL
QSYS 0114 VPVPGM01 BRCPGMSN *STMT
To module . . . . . . . . . :
VPVPGM01
To procedure . . . . . . . :
VPVPGM01
Statement . . . . . . . . . : 1851
Message . . . . : Library G1C1PGMS
added to library list.
CPC2196 Completion 00 10/28/15 08:00:02.563975 QLICUSRL
QSYS 0114 VPVPGM01 BRCPGMSN *STMT
To module . . . . . . . . . :
VPVPGM01
To procedure . . . . . . . :
VPVPGM01
Statement . . . . . . . . . : 1856
Message . . . . : Library G1C1FILES
added to library list.
Within VPVGP01 I did find this.
0315.00 C MONITOR
0316.00 C CALLP Cmd('ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1PGMS)':200)
0317.00 C ON-ERROR
0318.00 C ENDMON
0319.00
0320.00 C MONITOR
0321.00 C CALLP Cmd('ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1FILES)':200)
0322.00 C ON-ERROR
0323.00 C ENDMON
My question is why did I not find QAUDJRN entries for job BRCCHKFREE
showing the ADDLIBLE?
0316.00 C CALLP Cmd('ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1PGMS)':200)
0321.00 C CALLP Cmd('ADDLIBLE LIB(G1C1FILES)':200)
Paul
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CRPence
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 1:27 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Identifying what job is calling QSH
On 28-Oct-2015 11:15 -0500, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
<<SNIP>>
From the QAUDJRNJS, I have one job running daily at 8:00 am, that
calls QSH, (QZSHSH, QPOZSPWP) still has the 3rd party app libraries in
their library list.
How can I find what job is calling QSH that still contains these 3rd
party app libraries?
I expect [from memory alone; i.e. not as verified by an actual test]
that by locating the T-JS [Audit:Job Data] entry for one of those jobs,
that in the Standard Heading Fields For Audit Journal Entries will be
revealed the qualified job name of the job that performed the QSH request.
[
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/api/content/ssw_ibm_i_72/rzarl/rzarlf01.htm
]
_Standard heading fields for audit journal entries_ ...
"This table lists all possible values for the fields that are common to
all entry types when OUTFILFMT(*TYPE5) is specified on the DSPJRN command.
..."
The T-JS could be located by the start time of the job, and\or by
looking for the [and additionally to confirm the correct] entry having the
Job Name='QZSHSH' [and the corresponding Job User Name and Job Number;
probably also with Entry Type='S' and Job Subtype=D].
[
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/api/content/ssw_ibm_i_72/rzarl/rzarlf28.htm
]
_JS (Job Change) journal entries_
"This table provides the format of the JS (Job Change) journal entries.
..."
And if not revealed with that job [the Job Name='QZSHSH'], then the
other job [the Job Name='QPOZSPWP']; i.e. again, the job to which the T-JS
is associated, for at least one of those Qxxx jobs, presumably will be the
job that had issued the QSH request.
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