If I am not mistaken I think everyone here is in agreement (though I will
wait for Chuck's response to #2 below).

1 - IBM provides very robust capabilities for PTF/LICPGM management.
2 - IBM does not provide simple administrative tooling to link together the
robust capabilities. This is what Nathan (and I) are disparaging.​

p.s. The above assumes we are only discussing end-user application of PTFs
and not ​authoring tooling that uses IBM's license APIs, which is a whole
other topic.

Aaron Bartell
litmis.com - Services for open source on IBM i


On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


There is little reason to proceed with disparaging that which is not
understood.


How about disparaging something that requires years of experience by
full-time system administrators, and a process which leaves much hidden in
"cover letters" or left unexpressed by myriads of technicians who
contribute to PTF's - a process which supports unnecessary complexity,
which is prone to error?



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