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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul
Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: IBM i 7.3 Temporal tables
Check with your local user group and see if they have a membership with
COMMON.
Paul Nelson
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:50 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: IBM i 7.3 Temporal tables
Vern,
We're not eligible for LUG, too small of a company, asked many years ago if
I could join.
Management never approved of joining COMMON.
My options are limited.
Paul
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:53 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: IBM i 7.3 Temporal tables
Paul
DCRs are a different path into IBM for submitting requirements - they are
not merged with the COMMON requirements process.
You no longer need to be a COMMON member to use that page. If you submit one
there, you might not see it right away - it defaults to not being publicly
visible - an attempt to handle a problem with some web bot filling the place
with bogus entries. They are working on better ways.
Another path is the LUG, and yet another is the ISV Advisory Council.
Also COMMON Europe has a requirements process, I believe. There is a CEAC -
COMMON Europe Advisory Council - that is similar to our CAAC - COMMON
America Advisory Council.
IBM listen to all of these - they like the councils, because those have a
group of people vetting the submissions, which gives some weight to those
that are passed on to IBM.
Another path is the RFE process - this is for software group stuff -
Rational products, Websphere (I think), etc.
Vern
On 4/13/2016 9:20 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
Vern,- so you might consider going to requirements.common.org - all those are
Nice link - http://requirements.common.org/powerbase/fetch/
How does a DCR get to this page?
Does one need to be a common member for this to happen?
I don't see any of mine listed.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 9:40 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: IBM i 7.3 Temporal tables
Paul
DCRs stay internal to IBM - PMRs are usually related to a customer number
publicly visible - there IS a flag that makes them invisible when newly
entered - this was done due to getting hit by a bot,so as not to show junk
at first - COMMON are working on that, and we on the CAAC set them to
visible as soon as we review them for the first time.
dtaara (BRMS) or change to an existing dtaara (AJS).
Hope this makes sense!
Vern
On 4/13/2016 8:17 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
I've done many DCR over the years.
Some, if simple were implemented with either a PTF or possibly a new
performance).Others, if complicated, are on a list for review.
And, if no one else asks, will probably stay on the list. (Improve DUPTAP
because IBM does watch the industry but if they know what we all want they
It would be nice if we could all know what others were asking for.
A site to see DCR requests, I already asked for this.
Also asked if we could see PMRs and there resolutions
Not going to happen, for either.
Paul
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of DrFranken
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 9:07 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: IBM i 7.3 Temporal tables
Excellent!!
I know I have entered requirements and voted for others. Sometimes
you get contacted Before the decision with questions or for discussion.
They may combine requirements into one that's better. And sometimes,
as example my latest, they get whacked from the sky despite a fair
bit of support. Turns out this one was technically impossible to do!
(Who
knew?)
Clearly as you suggest things DO come out without specific requirements
do indeed listen!
function?
So now go out there and dream up some cool stuff to submit!!
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.
On 4/13/2016 4:18 AM, Arco Simonse wrote:
I see your point in "don't complain if you didn't let IBM know what
is desired", I will take that advise to the heart.
In the mid of 2015 I submitted an extra DCR for it, I must admit
that I stepped too late on the "vote" trains.
My believe was that it would be "natural" for IBM to bring this DB2
feature to the i platform, so I did not act earlier.
And I'm glad with what is brought now by 7.3, and hope they willl
extend the temporal features soon.
Regards,
-Arco
2016-04-13 3:50 GMT+02:00 DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Did you submit a reimbursement to IBM for this function prior to
2012? If not did you vote for an existing requirement for this
us.If not can you understand why this is one reason that it wasn't
provided sooner?
Seriously unless we ask IBM for specific enhancements we will get
the things that others ask for!!
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.
On 4/12/2016 1:48 PM, Matt Olson wrote:
Z/OS and LUW get all the love much earlier (2012):
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/dm-1410
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mporal-tables-db2zos/index.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Arco Simonse [mailto:arco400@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: IBM i 7.3 Temporal tables
Today IBM announced IBM i 7.3.
Great enhancements are in it, there is also the great feature for
temporal tables, which is fulfilling long-cherished wishes of some of
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