Re: SAVLIB/RSTLIB and external stored procedures -- MIDRANGE-L

I've never noticed the drop down on the "insert from examples" window in
Run SQL Scripts. Wow! Much more useful than I first thought!

I'll have to create someway to keep an automated list of stored procedures
(et al.) on our data saves, or put all stored procedures into the program
library instead of the data library. Now I come to think of it I am not
sure why I wanted to create the SQL functions in the data library in the
first place!? (Except maybe tables and views, of course).

Thanks Rob.

-Paul

On 4 January 2017 at 13:37, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is how you find your list of stored procedures, functions, routines,
etc:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_73/
db2/rbafzcatalogtbls.htm
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_
73/db2/rbafzcatalogodbc.htm?view=kc
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_
73/db2/rbafzcatalogans.htm?view=kc
There are columns in them which should indicate "external stored
procedures".

Also, get the latest version of "Run SQL Scripts".
Look at the "Insert from Examples".
Drop down "DB2 for i Services".
See "Compare SYSROUTINE across two IBM i partitions"?
How cool is that!

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/04/2017 08:05 AM
Subject: RE: SAVLIB/RSTLIB and external stored procedures
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Paul,

I do a similar Save of libraries and restore to libraries on a different
LPAR.
I haven't run into the stored procedure issue, but the Xlib LF issue.
In order for the Xlib LF to restore correctly, I have to restore to the
same library name, and rename the libraries afterwards.

Did you ever try restoring to the same library?

I'd like to know more about the external stored procedure issue.
We don't use them, but our primary 3rd party product does, I think.

1) How can you identify if you have "external stored procedures"?

2) What object type are they?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:52 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: SAVLIB/RSTLIB and external stored procedures

Rob is correct about the system catalogs being your friend, and sure call
it in, but I highly doubt you're going to get the responses you expect.

Stored procedures have been a problem with Save/Restore for some time and
are the chief source of pain in migrations and HA environments. I tell
all of my customers to have a plan to recreate stored procedures as part
of the DR plan, and usually have special procedures for them in an HA
environment.
Due to the way PowerHA does things it normally does not have an issue with
them, nor do a couple of the other vendors but they are still the focal
point of most of the recovery problems

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:41 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SAVLIB/RSTLIB and external stored procedures

First, I would test this.
Second, I would open a ticket if it didn't work.
Third, I would eschew manual lists and I would look at the system catalog
to create an automated list on a periodic basis. SYSPROCS, SYSFUNCS, etc.

Rob Berendt
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From: Paul Bailey <PabloMotte+Midrange@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/04/2017 07:37 AM
Subject: Re: SAVLIB/RSTLIB and external stored procedures
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

We're just starting with using stored procedures and are getting worried
that we'd have to maintain a list of stored procedures that need to be
manually re-created in a Disaster Recovery situation. Surely SAVLIB/RSTLIB
should be able to handle this by itself?.

On 4 January 2017 at 11:35, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We ran into the same thing with a migration recently. It does not

restore

them as desired. In our case it was one time and the developer said:

There

are three, I'll recreate them. We did not investigate further.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 1/4/2017 6:08 AM, Paul Bailey wrote:

Hi,

Does SAVLIB save external stored procedures? And does RSTLIB restore

them

to a different library?

I have a procedure created with:

CREATE PROCEDURE LIVEFIL/GETNEWCLAIMNUMBER(OUT REFERENCE INTEGER )

LANGUAGE RPGLE NOT DETERMINISTIC NO SQL EXTERNAL NAME

LIVEPGM/TR1406 PARAMETER STYLE GENERAL

Every night I save library LIVEFIL out to a tape. Much later in the

night

I
also restore LIVEFIL from that tape into library CLAIMFIL (after
completely
removing the older CLAIMFIL). Every morning the above procedure does

not

exist in CLAIMFIL. LIVEFIL and CLAIMFIL are not "schema", just plain
libraries.

With backup procedures of other DBMSs (e.g. MariaDB) all procedure and
table definitions are saved with the data backups, and on restore to a

new

database anything missing is recreated automatically.

-Paul.

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