Paul,
That is a practice that may come back to bite you in the future.
I have several clients that have done that and when they are interested in
trying a new LPP (example, Option 42 HA journal performance or even PT1
performance tools) they can't do it because it got installed with the
system. Also, any LPP you don't have a license for shouldn't be installed
(since it won't work anyways after the trial period). I always try to find
all the no-charge LPPs and install them (the OPS for example, even if they
don't use anything right now, better to have the tools installed).

Roberto

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:17 PM, Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Decades ago, I only installed what I thought we needed.
Shortly later, someone would ask to use an LPP that wasn't on the system.
After installing, then the PTFS had be applied, which usually took an IPL,
argh.

Long story short, from the Boy Scout motto "Be Prepared" which means you
are always in a state of readiness in mind and body to do your DUTY

So now, just about all LPP get installed.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Rob Berendt
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 4:02 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: 5733OPS media download for V7R3 i5/OS upgrade

Why "should" you? Are you using them all? Are you setting yourself up as
a consultant and want your own master set to be able to serve anyone you
come across?


Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/05/2018 03:54 PM
Subject: RE: 5733OPS media download for V7R3 i5/OS upgrade
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob,

I just discovered an updated V7R3 Media labels and their contents
I1199181.
I was previously looking at V7R3Media labels and their contents I1199180.

Found these additional media downloads that I probably should add to my
image catalog.

(LCD8-2420-0x Selected Program Products for i)
5733-ARE base 5050 Application Runtime Expert No
5798-FAX base 5050 Facsimile Support No
5770-SM1 base 5050 System Manager No
5770-DFH base 5050 CICS No
5770-DFH 1 5050 CICS -Sample Applications No
5770-MG1 base 5050 Managed System Services No
5770-SS1 23 5105 OptiConnect No

(LCD8-2390-0x IBM Cloud Storage Solutions for i) Entitled Software Support
(ESS Only)
5733-ICC base 5050 IBM Cloud Storage Solutions for i No
5733-ICC 1 5101 Cloud Storage Yes

(LCD8-1833-0x Zend Server for i 8.5)
5639-ZC1 base Zend Server Community Edition for i See note 1

Paul

-----Original Message-----
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Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 1:52 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: 5733OPS media download for V7R3 i5/OS upgrade

Rob,

My bad, missed that.

V7R3 image catalog built, simpler than V7R1/V7R2.
Below is the list.
Any thing missing?
Not using or planning to use Web Query or Zend, so not including these
two.

F_MULTI_NLV (LCD8-1900-0x F_MULTI_NLV DB2 Web Query for i) F_MULTI_NLV
(LCD8-1833-0x F_MULTI_NLV Zend)

Index Status Image File Name
*AVAIL
1 Mounted I_BASE_01_Licensed_Machine_Code_RS_730-D_LCD8 >
2 Loaded B_GROUP1_01_IBM_i_RS_730-00_LCD8_2288_00.udf0 >
3 Loaded B_GROUP1_02_IBM_i_RS_730-00_LCD8_2289_00.udf0 >
4 Loaded B_GROUP1_03_IBM_i_RS_730-00_LCD8_2290_00.udf0 >
5 Loaded B_GROUP1_04_IBM_i_RS_730-00_LCD8_2291_00.udf0 >
6 Loaded B_GROUP1_05_IBM_i_RS_730-00_LCD8_2292_00.udf0 >
7 Loaded F_MULTI_NLV_IBM_i_730_DB2_Symm_Multiproc_LCD8 >
8 Loaded F2935_01_System_38_Utilities_20080418_105158_ >

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 1:01 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: 5733OPS media download for V7R3 i5/OS upgrade

According to
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_73/
rzahc/rzahcswsmedialabel.htm

5733-OPS would be on B_GROUPx_04

At ESS 5733-XT2 is listed right there on the first page.

At ESS it doesn't list OPS but I'm guessing if you expand
5770-SS1
and then expand
5837: i7.3 B_GROUP1 v07.03.00,ENU,DVD
it's probably in
B_GROUP1_04_IBM_i_RS_730-00
I'm basing that on the first link regarding "Media labels and their
contents".


Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail
to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/04/2018 12:17 PM
Subject: 5733OPS media download for V7R3 i5/OS upgrade
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I'm creating my image catalog for V7R3 i5/OS upgrade.
I'm not finding a V7R3 version for 5733OPS.
Do I use the same media download that I used for V7R1 and V7R2?
F_MULTI_NLV_110_IBM_i_Open_Source_Solutions_LCD8_2252_00.

Also, same issue for
5733XT1
5733XT2
XML_Toolkit_for_IBM_System_i5__05-09-08

It appears though, that these are no longer used, may simply remove from
system and not include in V7R3 upgrade.

Thank You
_____
Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator

Pencor Services, Inc.
462 Delaware Ave
Palmerton Pa 18071

610-826-9117 work
610-826-9188 fax
610-349-0913 cell
610-377-6012 home

psteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx
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