Hi Jim
Even though Im not a fan of the cycle, I don't agree with this comment
I was a mainframe COBOL programmer when I was given a couple of manuals for the AS/400 and told - here, learn this
I was doing okay until I came across a program that had no reads of a file
Sent me up the wall - until days later - I finally saw the p in the f-spec
THAT was my introduction of the cycle
Traumatized me so much
I even have flashbacks
Oh the terror
Anyway, I use embedded SQL and I know there are quite a number of my fellow compadres have a problem with SQL - period
Because of that, should I never use embedded SQL?
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: the cycle that never ends
Since no other language has the cycle (that I'm aware of) in today's world where you might not be the one to maintain the program, more currently traditional styles of managing I/O is vastly preferred. Regardless of your adoration for the cycle, it's no longer commonly used. Sure it's easy in the right circumstance, however 99.5% of the students coming out of school have never seen a cycle program. That makes it your problem, not theirs, to make sure they can maintain what you built.
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James H. H. Lampert
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Subject: Re: the cycle that never ends
On 6/12/18, 10:42 AM, dmmueller@xxxxxxx wrote:
and should I be embarrassed to say, we still have some of those cycle
programs still running.... and with each upgrade, they still work :)
Nothing to be embarrassed about.
What should be embarrassing is when people AVOID using The Cycle in situations where it is the correct tool for the job . . . and end up "walking" through a file when they can "ride" through it (or writing their own "do until the user exits" loop when, simply by tying LR to whatever the user does to exit, e.g., tying it to INKC, they can use a built-in event-loop).
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