Re: What is an IBM Power Server really?

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Linux, Window, etc, all have a GUI (in the case of Linux X11) that run ON
TOP OF the OS.

Still disagree about (modern) Windows (for PCs). It sounds like you
have chosen to define "operating system" as something that
intrinsically CANNOT include a GUI. What you call "operating system" I
think is closer to what I would call "kernel". But that's not
important here. Because:

Nice intellectual discussion but using the GUI as a measure of the POWER
server as compared to other servers is a lot like buying a car because it
has a really cool dashboard, but no engine worth a salt. It's the engine
and the cost to run it I care about. Don't care about the GUI since I
rarely use it anyway.

Using the GUI to "measure" anything is a straw man. Nobody has
proposed that you make any decision based on the presence or absence
or quality of a GUI. Or any UI.

The point of bringing up other systems wasn't to measure them against
IBM Power. It was to serve as a basis for explaining (briefly!) what
IBM Power is to people who don't know anything about it. At least,
that is my reading of this thread. Maybe OP was ultimately seeking
advocacy advice, but if so, then I would think it makes more sense to
go for greater detail and accuracy, not "pack a few buzzwords into a
one-sentence explanation and call it a day".

John Y.