Our company didn't have to wait 10 years to know how it would work out.

On 2/11/2019 3:19 PM, Thomas Burrows wrote:
Oracle flies people to little islands outside the United States for fun.
Like the big pharma companies do with doctors. Common practice with big
pharma since before WWII.

Will let you figure out what folks do on those islands.

But you can do any kind of drugs there and not be charged once back in the
United States.

And how well did that decision to buy Burroughs work out??? Company was
out of the market for midrange systems in less than ten years.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:04 PM Peter Dow <petercdow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So local agencies are already reporting most (presumably) of this data
already? The state just wants to modernize or replace their own
system? Then I would expect a lot of (re-)training costs as well as
software modification/replacement costs. So if we guesstimate that your
estimate for software is reasonable, multiply by 10, add in twice as
much for training, $9M. That leaves $20M for wining & dining.

Don't underestimate that last. Back in the 1970's I was part of a
company that submitted a bid to provide hardware and software for all
school districts in NC. We had already installed our software on a
System 38 in Cumberland County (Fayetteville area) and a couple of
smaller districts. The committee evaluating software chose ours. The
people making the decision chose Burroughs hardware and software. Our
guess was that Burroughs had a bigger budget for entertainment.

On 2/11/2019 2:34 PM, Nathan Andelin wrote:
Local agencies acquire their own educational information systems through
their own procurement programs. About 15 systems exist in the state. All
of
them must meet the state's data-reporting requirements. With one
exception,
the school board doesn't pay for local agency systems - and that
exception
was not budgeted for in the project scope. At least there was no mention
of
that system in project documents. Maintenance of that system is included
in
their annual baseline budget.


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:23 PM Peter Dow <petercdow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Perhaps they are planning to pay for software for all school districts
to collect the information, or to interface their software to the
state's. Or do all schools in Utah use the same software?


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