Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Free form for a printer and o specs -- MIDRANGE-L

Doug

Try resetting the Turnover perspective - something might magically appear.

There are basically 2 bits that Turnover sets up - the set that you describe, and another that I don't remember the name of now - it usually starts in the bottom of the screen.

If all else fails, try opening the Worklist view on its own out of the Window-->Show View-->Other... - everythign should be in there.

Regards
Vern

On 7/26/2019 1:24 PM, Belcher, Doug [COMRES/WR/STL] wrote:

Vern,

I have the TurnOver for iSeries V100 perspective but looking at the TurnOver Explorer I only have options for Forms; Projects Administration; Reports; Tasks; and Wisedesk. I am missing the "Worklist". I will send something to Unicom support to see what I need to do to get it back.

Thanks.

Doug Belcher | IT Applications Specialist | White-Rodgers
Emerson Commercial & Residential Solutions | 8100 West Florissant Avenue | St. Louis, Mo | 63136 | USA
T 314 553 5872 | M 314 776 4461
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Hi Doug

IIRC, the standard Turnover perspective should have both the regular worklist view and other views like IFS worklist. Turnover console, and Task activity. I've added several other things, like RSE, Command, and Outline views - other things appear as needed, such as the Error view (if you have *EVENTF in the OPTION parameter - old Turnover didn't have it in the type codes, since it didn't exist - new installations should).

If you don't see it, in the Window menu go to Show view->

In that list, if you see "Worklist", click on it - it'll show up in the set of views you have, assuming you have the Turnover perspective open - I wonder if you have RSE perspective open, check the upper right corner of RDi to see what you are using.

If you do have TO perspective open, you might try resetting it - a right-click on the big T in the upper-right should give a Reset option - this can restore even changes you have made to it.

Good luck!
Vern

On 7/25/2019 1:12 PM, Belcher, Doug [COMRES/WR/STL] wrote:

Vern,

You mentioned using an RDi TurnOver perspective. We also have TurnOver and I have a TurnOver perspective but what I'm looking for is a way to directly access the programmers Worklist, like I can in the 5250. Do you know of anything like that?

Doug Belcher | IT Applications Specialist | White-Rodgers Emerson
Commercial & Residential Solutions | 8100 West Florissant Avenue | St.
Louis, Mo | 63136 | USA T 314 553 5872 | M 314 776 4461
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Hi Alan

You're in for some fun!! The tutorials should be a help - I think you sign on to an IBM system, you could install the temporary copy, too, until you get the full license.

A new developer here has been really excited about how much more he can do with RDi - had not been at a place with it.

I also live in it, with the Turnover perspective - Aldon or Implementer have plugins, too, and work is really moved along nicely with the newer tooling.

And may I suggest, once you get used to things a little, that you get the iSphere plugin - you've probably seen emails here about it - just having a search tool that can span several libraries in one fell swoop and runs up to 60 times faster than FNDSTRPDM - I use it all the time to find things in source files that our cross-reference tool doesn't keep track of, like constans.

Regards
Vern

On 7/25/2019 10:46 AM, Alan Shore via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

Thanks for your reply Vernon
First the bad news - we DON'T have RDi Now the good news - after MUCH
cajoling, pleading, groveling, crying, swearing - on my part - we are
finally getting RDi Just have to wait for the red tape etc.

This has nothing to do with my original question as I have
resigned/accepted that I need to do an external print file and am
capable of doing so with PDM What DID catch my eye in your e-mail,
was the link for the RDi tutorials

I haven't had a chance to look at this link, yet But I appreciate you
passing this on

Alan Shore
E-mail : ASHORE@xxxxxxxx
Phone [O] : (631) 200-5019
Phone [C] : (631) 880-8640
'If you're going through hell, keep going.'
Winston Churchill

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Hi Alan

SImple or not, I strongly concur with the suggestions to use a PRTF - would you ever write display code the way it was done on the 36? And probably still can be on the IBM i?

PRTFs are also very easy, and there is a nice designer in RDi. There are tutorials for RDi at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ibm.biz_rdi-5Flabs&d=DwICAg&c=jOURTkCZzT8tVB5xPEYIm3YJGoxoTaQsQPzPKJGaWbo&r=jFFsrfJukeI3_1504_25tcj_qfI1gv7BeeMsv5LMb1M&m=g2h9yx2EI-cIgx3EjurRxrm0uSvZ3YsBxIJXXxKTvow&s=D1mEBXw11f6m6qnabToL3hkKjAOpOAaeI4vOauS84BE&e= - Lab 09 deals with Report Designer.

If you're using PDM, there is always RLU, which can do well enough.

Good luck!
Vern

On 7/25/2019 8:23 AM, Alan Shore via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

Thanks Rob
Its just a small report - nothing fancy

Alan Shore
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Use of O specs, even in fixed form, have a very limited use when using anything other than the most basic of reporting. For a "quick and dirty" they may be acceptable. But look at creating a printer file with DDS. Then in RPG you write to that instead of using O specs, etc.

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You can't do O-specs (or I-specs) in **FREE. You should probably use an externally-described print file. Alternatively, you can use an /INCLUDE compiler directive to put the fixed-format O-specs in a different source member.

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Subject: Free form for a printer and o specs

Hi everyone
We are on V7r3
Its been a while since I wrote a new program that produces a spool
file

With free-form, you declare a printer like

dcl-f SLSRPT0055 Printer OflInd(pageFull);

However - did anything replace the o-specs?

Ive done a google search and haven't really found anything - but then - could THAT be due to what I am searching for?

As always - all answers gratefully accepted

Alan Shore
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Phone [O] : (631) 200-5019
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