Re: PTF Object Manifests?

Only for auditors and PITA managers.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:52 PM Ron Adams <rondadams@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

People still use green bar?

On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Mark Waterbury <

mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DSPOBJD OBJ(QSYS/*ALL) OBJTYPE(*ALL) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) ...


Then just write a query over that *OUTFILE, using e.g. Query/400 or SQL

... No programming required ...

Then print the report on green-bar paper, and deposit the boxes and

boxes of listings on the auditors desk -- it makes a better impression and
carries more weight that way ... ;-)

On Friday, August 2, 2019, 10:06:51 AM EDT, Ron Adams <

rondadams@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Right, because if I have to write a program, I also have to (potentially)
show my source to the auditor.
I'm not adverse to writing a program to do, it, but the preference would

be

a built-in system method that provides the detail.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:53 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes I know of exactly such a document.
DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1) SELECT(SI69858)
6. PTF Objects

He already found a way to get there programmatically using an API

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_74/apis/qpzrtvfx.htm

Now the OP is just trying to find a way to get the output of this API
without writing a program.

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Yep - do you know of a document that ties PTFs to system objects and
explains what was changed?

It's an unreasonable request from an auditor to have a system admin or
system owner to document what was changed by the vendor of the OS.


Thanks,

Steve McKay
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 9:45 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You do realize that this PTF output file has NOTHING in it whatsoever
about the list of objects changed by a particular PTF id?
At this time I assume he already knows how to generate a PTF list.
He's looking for the objects changed by a particular PTF.

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Ron -

DSPPTF OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE(libname/PTFLIST) and query
libname/PTFLIST with your favorite query tool.


Thanks,

Steve McKay
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 9:28 AM Ron Adams <rondadams@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

OS Level is v7.3 and as far as the auditors are concerned, and for
the purpose of our current requirements, we just want to see
traditional objects, not IFS.

Ideally, we would like to produce a report showing PTF Number, Date
Applied, Object, Object Type, Object Library, Object Change Date,
Size, etc.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 6:15 AM Rob Berendt

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What is your definition of an "object"? Just stuff in the
qsys.lib file system and not stream files in other places of the IFS?
If that's the case I was going to suggest querying
OBJECT_STATISTICS however, while that does have many of the fields
it does not have the PTF number as displayed in DSPOBJD
OBJ(QSQROUTE) OBJTYPE(*PGM)
DETAIL(*SERVICE) Sorry.


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We had an odd request by auditors to verify objects changed by PTFs.
Is there an easy way to do this? I see there is an API (QPZRTVFX),
but I was hoping for something more standardized like an already

existing CMD.

I suppose we could capture the log messages when we apply fixes,
but that only helps us for the future. We need to show past
changes right

now.

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