RE: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install ** -- MIDRANGE-L

Don't attempt to apply 16, that will cause issues. Discard it. Apply 17.

The only way 16 does not cause issues is if you are very current on HIPER
and DB groups to start with, mainly the HIPER. It's best just to avoid it.

17 has the co/pre requisite table corrected so the process will work as
expected.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jeff
Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:43 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

Like you Paul I have both level 16 and 17 as Not Applied.

If I do DSPPTFCVR SELECT(*NOTAPY), those 2 level 16 PTFs do not show.

Do a:

DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1) SELECT(SI71241)
DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1) SELECT(SI71254)

and both show as Superseded.

I wonder if Larry still thinks it is dangerous to apply both 16 and 17 at
the same time . . .

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:32 PM Steinmetz, Paul via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Per IBM support,

The Level 16 issue was some PTFs with bad prereq/coreq, which caused
the install to fail.
Level 16 SI71241 was SS by Level 17 SI71635.
Level 16 SI71254 was SS by Level 17 SI71633.

As long as Level 17 is on, no need to remove Level 16.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:01 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

Absolutely make group 16 go away. 17 is effectively the same group but
with all needed PTFs so that it installs correctly.

Problem with the *SAVF method is that you will have to spend time
comparing what's on 16 and 17. Worse you don't know what combination
of PTFs is the problem on 16. While we suspect that it's MISSING PTFs
that is the problem we don't know that and SF98198 (Defective PTF
listing for i
7.3) does not detail that either. It was last updated July 29 and thus
doesn't even call out Group 16 as defective, so no help there.

Conclusion: I would not use that method here, I would use an image
catalog. *OR* I would delete ALL PTF *SAVF that are on your system and
have not been installed. Then run UPDPTFINF to update the internal PTF
database on your system. Then finally re-download group 17.

I like the image catalog option best but then that's the way I usually
do this. I apply PTFs to MANY partitions and the use of *SAVFs doesn't
work well in that environment.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 12/2/2019 3:06 PM, Steinmetz, Paul via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

I already have groups 16 and 17 downloaded, via *SAVF, waiting to
be

installed.

How do I either remove/delete group 16?
Or
identify all the PTFs for group 16 and remove/delete the
individual

PTFs?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of Buzz Fenner
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 12:58 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, 14:56, Andrew Lopez wrote:

FYI This one is bad. Can actually require re-installing the O/S!!

We somehow dodged the bullet here. We're on Level 17 (installed

yesterday), but >Level 16 shows as having been installed as well.
Does anyone know what would cause >some servers to not have a problem,
and others to experience this?

More details on the issue can be found at

https://www.itjungle.com/2019/12/02/db2->for-ibm-i-7-3-hits-a-bad-patc
h/, but it doesn't get into the details of why some >systems can run
Level 16 without a problem.

We, too, have either dodged a bullet or we're living on borrowed time.

Installed lvl 16 last Friday morning (with CUME & Groups) and the
system
(8202-E4D) is humming along.

I'm scheduling an out-of-cycle apply for lvl 17 this weekend,
hopefully

allowing me to sleep better.

--Buzz

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