As Larry pointed out, if IBM does not support Pure Storage in IBM i, (or
POWER for that matter) then caveat emptor on the part of any engineer that
configures it regardless of the quality of the product.

The moment any storage related thing goes wrong, you are on your own to
resolve it. Experience teaches us that neither vendor will ultimately
prevail in the problem resolution. While there are areas where there is
great cooperation between IBM and the OEM vendors (case in point VTL
vendors) there are way too many where we can cite the exact opposite.

Semantics, "support by vendor" vs. "supported by IBM i ": maybe, but when
the systems down due to a fault somewhere in the OEM storage subsystem,
VIOS, Firmware, AIX storage management, IBM i storage management, or any
combination of thereof, you will start to care in a real hurry about the
semantics. It's not a difference without distinction, it's potential
disaster waiting to go kinetic.
--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Tsvetan Marinov
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:49 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Pure Storage

That is a fair point and I agree 100%. There is definitely a difference
between the two.

But just saying, Not Supported is a bit misleading to me.

Let's at least wait to hear from someone, in that mail list that is actually
using PureStorage storage with IBM i, so they can share their experience in
regards to using snapshots etc.

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Holger
Scherer <hs@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:21 pm
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re[2]: Pure Storage

Usually i would not interfere in any discussions, but at this topic, there
wording might be the point to look at:
"supported by the vendor" is not equal to "supported by IBM". If a solution
(whatever) works in a certain combination, this is ok, but if there is a
problem and you are not on a path which IBM supports, you start to struggle
with two vendors - and we know from the Wintel world how bad this can end.

"Supported by the Vendor" means: it works, anyhow. And from a technical
point, even a USB drive connected to FreeNAS connected to VIOS connected to
IBM i does work, and maybe is supported by the Vendor
(here: IXsystems). But it is certainly not supported by IBM, despite of any
performance constraints.

So - you can go with "Supported by Vendor" with any solution. It even may be
faster and cheaper than any IBM-only solution. But you must be clear to be
on your own in any case of trouble, or at least you must accept two vendors
pointing each other on the opponent site in case of problems.

-h



------ Originalnachricht ------
Von: "Tsvetan Marinov" <tsetso.marinov@xxxxxxxxx>
An: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Evan Harris" <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>
Gesendet: 16.07.2021 15:12:52
Betreff: Re: Pure Storage

Larry, you are absolutely not correct that PureStorage is not supported by
IBM i. It's well supported, link below.

I've noticed that you always reply as the ultimate authority all "IBM i" in
this mail list. I've been to some of your sessions and I highly respect your
technical understanding and experience, but you not ultimate authority "IBM
i". For example with Pure Storage, you haven't done a simple Google search
to check if supported by the vendor.


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